X versus M race, it has been done

[baldbaby2000]

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on an  if you throw your favourite hat off the back of the boat near the motor and sail for a minute or two it will be still be there, trapped by the turbulent water flow...I tried this with my customers hat at Nantucket.... 

I'm surprised Roger didn't advertize this as a "feature!"

[Catigale]

Ill challenge any blue hulled to a duel to the death on Lake Ontario next week....

Catigale

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[Harrison]

Since it was brought up in the thread (I’m sure in many others as well) about “better” sails, I’m going to ask. . . .What makes a good/bad sail? What would one look for?

Thanks,
Harrison

[delevi]

In short, it's ability to hold shape, especially over a period of years. If you always sail in light air, the stock sails are actually great since they aren't cut very flat and are very light-duty sails which will stretch easily. This helps in light air but kills you in heavy air. High performance sails tend to have minimum stretch characteristics and can be flattened really well. It will also just have a better overall shape on all points of sail. I saw an immediate difference just by looking at the sail, particularly when off the wind when the stock sail just wraps itself around the shrounds and spreaders. My current sails don't do that. A heavier sail will make the difference when there is enough wind to have any performance measure. A baggy, stretched out sail will be slower and induce more heel, weather helm, etc, which in turn makes you even slower and harder to handle the boat. Don't get me wrong, you still need to reef when conditions warrant. From personal experience, my boat came alive when I replaced the sails. Much more responsive, less heel, faster and just a lot more fun to sail. The coveat here is I rarely sail when the wind is below 10 kts. For me at least, it's when the boat transforms to "power boat mode." Ok. that's all on sails 101 from a guy who purchased just one set of sails... did some homework though.

Leon

[Richard O'Brien]

In short, it's ability to hold shape, especially over a period of years. If you always sail in light air, the stock sails are actually great since they aren't cut very flat and are very light-duty sails which will stretch easily... This helps in light air... The coveat here is I rarely sail when the wind is below 10 kts.
Leon

Thanks leon,

This clears something up for me, which i had not understood completely.
i always lose in light air against all comers, yet do fairly well keeping up above 10 kts. I've been racing on a Capri 22, but might try it again with the Mac, using stock jib, assym spinnaker, and Pentex Main. We'll see?

[Harrison]

Delevi,

Thanks for the info!

---Harrison

[Greg]

The transom was shaped to allow a better release of water according to the factory marketing materials...on an if you throw your favourite hat off the back of the boat near the motor and sail for a minute or two it will be still be there, trapped by the turbulent water flow...I tried this with my customers hat at Nantucket....

I wonder how much of the turbulence is caused by that big open trunk cavity. Maybe there would be a performance benefit under sail and power if the aft top of the trunk were filled so it slopes down at a 45 deg angle and reshape the board. I’m sure a lot of water backs up in that trunk and acts like a brake.

[Gerald Gordon]

Catigale,
I may be able to recover two torpedos from the Japanese mini-sub downed in the Pearl Harbor channel. You could hide them in the CB trunk and if it looks like the gods are for the blue, or you fall to far behind the ...well...you'll know what to do.

Just remember: Britania waves the rules

[MARK PASSMORE]

Gerald, Off topic but how did u get da kine X to da island Bra??

[Catigale]

ust remember: Britania waves the rules

[Gerald Gordon]

Mark, Matson brought the boat over $5,000.00 dollars back in six yrs ago.

[MARK PASSMORE]

Gerald, if we ever move back to Oahu we can settle the vs. question. Of course by then, hopefully I will have some sailing experience under my belt.
I figured you used Matson for the shipping but I guess I just wanted to hear someone say the sailed over on a Mac.
I see by your profile that you are a teacher. Where do you teach? I have a lot of family in Hawaii you may have one in your class.

[Dimitri-2000X-Tampa]

A heavier sail will make the difference when there is enough wind to have any performance measure.

Keep in mind that a heavier sail also adds more weight aloft so there is a tradeoff with the flatness of the sail (reduced heeling) versus the plain old mass of a heavier sail (increased heeling). IIRC, you also added weight to your dagger board so I suppose that compensates for heavier sails too.

[delevi]

Keep in mind that a heavier sail also adds more weight aloft so there is a tradeoff with the flatness of the sail (reduced heeling) versus the plain old mass of a heavier sail (increased heeling). IIRC, you also added weight to your dagger board so I suppose that compensates for heavier sails too.

Actually, the nice thing about modern laminate sails is you get thicker more heavy duty sails without much added weight. They certainly weigh more than the stock 3.9 oz sails but not nearly as much as the comparable 8 oz Dacron would weigh.