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Randy Smith
- First Officer
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If you have a pressure water system, one of those kitchen spray hoses would be great in the head. I've noted in the Mods Pages some owners here use them.
Rather than plumb a drain into the head floor and run it to a sump in the bilge with a small bilge pump, I had planned to just sit a small bilge pump on the head floor and lead a discharge hose up and over into the sink. One of the places I'd had yet to put a 12VDC power outlet was the head. This would make it easy to remove and stow the small pump. The pump would still leave some water to be sponged up, but would take care of much of it.
Rather than plumb a drain into the head floor and run it to a sump in the bilge with a small bilge pump, I had planned to just sit a small bilge pump on the head floor and lead a discharge hose up and over into the sink. One of the places I'd had yet to put a 12VDC power outlet was the head. This would make it easy to remove and stow the small pump. The pump would still leave some water to be sponged up, but would take care of much of it.
- Gerald Gordon
- First Officer
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I have thought about the head shower and have come away with this impression.
I found that the molded sink/vanity area really takes up the foot space. I had thought about taking out the sink to gain access to the space under the cockpit and also opening up the wall to the right of the sink. This space would then be inclosed using figerglass and divinicell foamboards. The head could then be mounted on a slide and be out of the way or be pulled forward as a seat. People would be facing forward sitting on the head (lid closed) and with the right side wall enlarged one would have more arm room for showering. Then add water heater and sump pumps and...presto...lots of work.
I found that the molded sink/vanity area really takes up the foot space. I had thought about taking out the sink to gain access to the space under the cockpit and also opening up the wall to the right of the sink. This space would then be inclosed using figerglass and divinicell foamboards. The head could then be mounted on a slide and be out of the way or be pulled forward as a seat. People would be facing forward sitting on the head (lid closed) and with the right side wall enlarged one would have more arm room for showering. Then add water heater and sump pumps and...presto...lots of work.
- Beam's Reach
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I hold out for as long as I can before using the head. If we're anchored, I'll go for a "swim".
I just can't stand (sit?) using the head unless it's absolutely necessary. Just pulling down my shorts, sitting, and then standing back up and trying to pull the shorts up again in that tiny space is getting beyond my range of flexibility. I can't imagine trying to actually shower in there.
A swim and toothbrush are all I need if it's just a couple of days. If it's too cold to swim, baby wipes are my "shower in a box". I also have the black "shower in a bag" you heat up in the sun. I've never used it but I thing I would prefer that to the "shower in a phone booth".
I just can't stand (sit?) using the head unless it's absolutely necessary. Just pulling down my shorts, sitting, and then standing back up and trying to pull the shorts up again in that tiny space is getting beyond my range of flexibility. I can't imagine trying to actually shower in there.
A swim and toothbrush are all I need if it's just a couple of days. If it's too cold to swim, baby wipes are my "shower in a box". I also have the black "shower in a bag" you heat up in the sun. I've never used it but I thing I would prefer that to the "shower in a phone booth".
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LOUIS B HOLUB
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THIS is something I've been pondering for a while...WE enjoy overnighters in our 99 MAC-X, I'd rather have a MAC SHOWER instead of the MARINA SHOWER. Im watchin' the POSTs for an eventual MAC-X solution, with PICs. I think it is quite possible ! I can figure out A shower curtain against the head door, overhead "water-thrift" spray spout, soap dish, towel, (but I NEED A WATER DRAIN). I already have the bath robe and slippers too....CANT someone figure this one EASILY ? When one examines the MAX-X HEAD...IT ABSOLUTELY SEEMs POSSIBLE. 
- richandlori
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I have the M, which would be impossible to shower in the head like the X, and have simply found that a cockpit shower works great for the kids if done is a swimsuit. The whole shower issue is one of the drawbacks to the Mac. I have also used it myself complete with hair shampoo. That Zodi hot water heater www.zodi.com is great. As far as being enclosed? Well I guess you could rig up a shower curtin or something in the cockpit, but if you are willing to shower in a swim suit, why bother?
I'd think draining into the bigle would be real easy, with just a little careful drilling... From there you could use a bilge pump, if you didn't mind breaking a few laws...
Making a contained system shouldn't be much harder than installing a drinking water tankage system...
But, my big butt would not shower too well in even an X's palatial (by comparison) head.
Making a contained system shouldn't be much harder than installing a drinking water tankage system...
But, my big butt would not shower too well in even an X's palatial (by comparison) head.
We spent most of the last 15 years using truckstop showers until we got the sleeper with its own shower. So roughing it in the cockpit under a solar shower seems like uptown. I used to hang my head out the truck window and wash and rinse with a gallon jug and used those baby wipes by the box full. I look at staying on the Mac X like camping and have fun finding ways to get things done without much fuss. With only 2 of us on board most of the time we just open the head door and use the potty with plenty of leg room. (someone has to be at the wheel, right?) Just be carefull if the hatch is open and a tall cruise boat full of tourists go by. LOL
- Terry
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Shower
I think Rich has the right idea for the M, but one could go a step further if they are modest. (Even in a swimsuit the rolls hang out). I made a shower curtain rod with four corners from PVC conduit. It can be supported by the boom over the cockpit and balanced with bungee cords attached to stantions and jacklines. You will need two shower curtains to enclose it but at least your arms will only hit the curtains and not walls. You can even set it up to sit in front of the traveller and shower in privacy, even in the raw. 
- McSkipper
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I like the idea of keeping things simple. I had thought about putting the shower in the head but the older I get the less things want to bend.
The Zodi in the cockpit works for us. The added luxury of having the full cockpit enclosure and taking a shower in the cockpit with it up with some kind of privacy screen sounds ideal. (The full-enclosure being on the "future wish list.") Without the enclosure, the cockpit /Zodi combo and a privacy screen seems to be the least problematic and roomy way to go IMHO.
I've used the Solar bag and my problem with that is the water actually gets too hot.
The Zodi can regulate temp.
I've used the Solar bag and my problem with that is the water actually gets too hot.
Shower
Here is a possible solution I posted in a prior thread:
http://www.pocketcruisers.com/art_shower.html
http://www.pocketcruisers.com/art_shower.html
