moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

Post by kevinnem »

hello again all. I was hoping to move my mac , from storage to my back yard, there is enough room in my back yard, but getting it in there is going to be very hard.


It is accessed off a lane, technically 30 feet wide. and my yard (it is a side yard ) is about 12 feet wide.

The lane itself is on a significant grade, and then uphill in to my back yard as well.

so I need some sort of powered, .. 0 turn radius type of solution, .. preferably cheap.

It might be that such a thing doesn't exist, or is too much $$$ , but though t I would ask.

google maps link to see the area here....
https://goo.gl/maps/CWhtj
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Re: moving teh max with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

Post by Y.B.Normal »

You could do several things.
1) Ask someone you know who has a JEEP CJ to move it into the yard for you. The Jeep has a short turning radius.
2) Install a hitch on the front of your vehicle and move it into the yard using the front hitch. It'll have a smaller turning radius than using the rear hitch.
3) Get several guys from the local health club to push it into the yard for you. :D
4) Learn how to maneuver your trailer in tight quarters. It may take several times (many? :) ) but you should be able to do it.
5) If you know someone who has a good sized lawn tractor, the tractor, and maybe several helpers, should be able to get it into the yard.
Make sure you have a good spotter helping to direct you. It makes life a whole lot easier.

I learned to handle trailers in tight quarters while working for a boat company in high school. Some of the best training I ever had.
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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If the spase is really tight, then You need something like
this thingy:
http://www.easi-move.com/easi-move-V2-t ... ravel-boat
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

Post by March »

I don't think a little lawn tractor will make it. The trailer and the boat are pretty heavy. If you have a 4 W D, you don't need a lot of maneuvering to push it into the back of the house. Just make sure your rig is perfectly parallel to the side fence and move ve-e-ery slo-o-owly. If the rig slants, straighten it out by moving forward a couple of feet. It shouldn't be a problem. Of course, a front hitch, like YB Norman suggested, would give you more visual clues in case you're beginning to drift a little

I wouldn't trust the iron pumpers from your friendly neighbourhood gym with such a task. For liability reasons.

What Norca suggested is pretty cool, but the cost is prohibitive, I bet
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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I looked at the thing on that link and it says it's an electric motor that is permanently connected to the trailer. :o :? Not really a good thing for a trailer that goes under water :?

Question, is the side yard that dirt area inside of the fence? Is that dirt? Your going to have a really hard time if your going to move it on dirt. If it was a hard surface I would think you could use the POWERMOVER electric unit - that's what I use.

http://www.powerdolly.co/

Brady is the owner of the POWERMOVER company and you can see that on the website the unit can spin a boat in a 360 within it's own length - I do it with 'boat' every time I launch. The maneuverability or even the tight space is not a problem. (My space has an opening of 8foot3inches so I bring 'boat' in with only 1.5 inch clearance on each side.) The problem will be TRACTION - THAT is what the issue will be - can you get TRACTION. The dirt is NOT gonna work. The grade is an issue if it's too steep, but Brady can built the tractor to handle various grades - he will know how to handle that, but NOTHING is gonna work in the dirt.
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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Agree with BOAT, traction will be what limits what you can do on uneven terrain. I think you will need at least a track-type drive if you go with a power dolly. The kind of small drive track they have on snow blowers. Once you lose traction on a hill, the boat will build speed quickly. Having someone follow behind sliding long chocks behind the tires of the trailer will prevent a disaster if you are ever borderline in traction while doing this. Like in wet grass.

Good luck! :wink:
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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Really, if his side yard is paved the POWERMOVER will get it into his yard. The powermover does not use a battery - you plug it in (it's got a long extension cord). So it's not real expensive. It's just a big motor and a gearbox and tires. It will go up ANY grade or haul any load as long as it has enough TRACTION. The reason TRACTION is such a problem with these dolly's is because there is only 300 pounds of weight at the tongue - if you need to go up a steep grade that's not enough weight to keep the tires from spinning. The unit has more than enough power to go up the hill, there is just not enough TRACTION, so the tires spin on the pavement. (You can't haul 1000 pounds horizontal with only 300 pounds vertical). You need weight in the front to get the traction. One guy I met put sacks and sacks of concrete on his power mover to keep the tires from slipping so he could get up the grade at his house. With his 300 pound tongue weight he added another 400 pounds of dead weight right at the tongue and that stopped the tires from slipping and his powermover hauled his big trailer up a steep hill.
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

Post by RobertB »

Most of these EXCELLENT recommendations can be pricey and have drawbacks.
How about something a bit less expensive? Try a electric winch mounted where you want the stern to end up. Back up the trailer with your vehicle the best you can and disconnect. Attach the winch with a strap to the center of the rear axle. The hard part will be pushing the bow by hand to steer - smooth pavement will help here.
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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RobertB wrote:Most of these EXCELLENT recommendations can be pricey and have drawbacks.
How about something a bit less expensive? Try a electric winch mounted where you want the stern to end up. Back up the trailer with your vehicle the best you can and disconnect. Attach the winch with a strap to the center of the rear axle. The hard part will be pushing the bow by hand to steer - smooth pavement will help here.
Ooh! That's a good idea. You can get a power winch at Freight Harbor for < $200 that can pull this load. For a fixed location like this, it's probably ideal.

While I like the power-mover idea, this winch idea fails safely (for the boat and the fence and the neighbors) if it can't pull the load.

And for minor moves with the winch, there's this, which I use and does work: http://www.trailervalet.com/
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

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Norca wrote:If the spase is really tight, then You need something like
this thingy:
http://www.easi-move.com/easi-move-V2-t ... ravel-boat

Not so good when putting you boat in the water. I understand these motors do not do well being dunked.
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Re: moving the Mac with out a vehicle-uphill-tight quarters.

Post by sljury »

I to had the same Problem...
I got around this by putting a tow hitch on the front of my Toyota Landcruiser.
This allows to swing the boat at 90 deg almost instantly by steering the boat hooked up to the front
of the vehicle.
My :macx: can not be removed from my yard by a normal rear mounted tow bar.
Its amazing how good you can maneuver the boat without help from the admiral to point the finger.
Give it a go!!
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Sea Shadow wrote: Not so good when putting you boat in the water. I understand these motors do not do well being dunked.

Oops :| :o
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