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Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:32 pm
by dlandersson
[That's pretty much it - beam is 7 ft, 10 inches :wink:

quote=pitchpolehobie post_id=351555 time=1624032290 user_id=19142]
My incomplete understand was that the length of the 26 x/m series was limited by the beam of 8 feet to ensure trailer ability on US roads without additional permits and expense. Maybe someone w more knowledge could weigh in. Otherwise yes it'd be great to have a 28ft version w a standing galley.
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Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:35 pm
by Bilgemaster
pitchpolehobie wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:23 am https://m.alibaba.com/product/158556632 ... x140xz.jpg

I can't figure out if its the X or the M based on the stolen pics. I wonder if they've even built any. Were the plans hacked? Maybe tattoo yachts soldout.
Ahhh...the Über-Fantastic Hison! (As in, "You'd have to be high son to buy one"). Proud marque of one of arguably the most stunningly subpar and least inspiring boat sales videos of all time titled, "World's Most Fantastic Sailboat of This Year," featuring a couple of shnooks from the Hison factory distractedly wallowing around in what must be one of their earlier Mac-ripoff prototypes given a triple-whacking with the ugly stick. From the old tires used as fenders to the bored hunchback dude wearing the shredded remains of some odd half-T-shirt looking like he just finished crapping over the side, it all just hollers, "Class!" Yessirree boys--that's some sleek sampan! Presumably the "Smoke on the Water" soundtrack must be a marketing homage to those planning to burn them to the waterline for the insurance money:

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:48 pm
by Tomfoolery
The old tires hanging off the rub rail are a nice touch. Paging Captain Ron! :D

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:14 pm
by Jimmyt
Wish I had known that was acceptable... I could have used that fender money for something more fun. :D

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:59 pm
by pitchpolehobie
So Rog sold them the mold.

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:45 pm
by OverEasy
Hi Bilgemaster,

I take it you didn’t like it, eh? :D :D

Thought Rodger gave/sold the company to his daughter or something like that to bring the Tattoo into production in Florida?

Funny it shows up in a low budget Hison video somewhere in China?

If they have the actual molds and didn’t make reverse casting molds it’s disappointing. :( :(

Wonder what the back story is…….🤔

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:07 pm
by OverEasy
Hi Pitchpole and Dlandersson

The 102 inch width RVs are a bane to city streets.
Several wallow through town here on a regular basis to get jammed at the intersections and parking lots on their way south only to return a few months later north bound. Wouldn’t have thought a couple of inches could be much trouble….. 🤔 …. But what do I know.

I may have gotten this wrong but from several of the boat design books read when we were originally contemplating building vs. buying that there is a standard ratio formula for beam to length as related to nominal stability but there have been several designers that have made statements to the effect that a more minimal beam does not necessarily make a sailing vessel unstable if compensated by things like hull shape, ballast, skegs and keel/rudder.

Now we chose to buy a Mac26X because it was inherently better than anything we could reasonably design/build. It has a proven track record of safety, performance and comfort that is really hard to argue with. At the same time it is trailerable and adaptable.

The extra foot or so would be beneficial for those looking for a step up if it could incorporate several of the common mods made to the Xs and Ms. Just wonder if the increase in headroom and length would really necessitate an increase in beam…..

8) 8) 🐩

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:26 am
by dlandersson
"we chose to buy a Mac26X because it was inherently better than anything we could reasonably design/build" :)
OverEasy wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:07 pm Hi Pitchpole and Dlandersson

The 102 inch width RVs are a bane to city streets.
Several wallow through town here on a regular basis to get jammed at the intersections and parking lots on their way south only to return a few months later north bound. Wouldn’t have thought a couple of inches could be much trouble….. 🤔 …. But what do I know.

I may have gotten this wrong but from several of the boat design books read when we were originally contemplating building vs. buying that there is a standard ratio formula for beam to length as related to nominal stability but there have been several designers that have made statements to the effect that a more minimal beam does not necessarily make a sailing vessel unstable if compensated by things like hull shape, ballast, skegs and keel/rudder.

Now we chose to buy a Mac26X because it was inherently better than anything we could reasonably design/build. It has a proven track record of safety, performance and comfort that is really hard to argue with. At the same time it is trailerable and adaptable.

The extra foot or so would be beneficial for those looking for a step up if it could incorporate several of the common mods made to the Xs and Ms. Just wonder if the increase in headroom and length would really necessitate an increase in beam…..

8) 8) 🐩

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:12 am
by Be Free
One definition of "fantastic" is "strange and imaginary, or not reasonable". I think under that definition is is certainly the most fantastic sailboat of the year. :wink:

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:12 pm
by pitchpolehobie
Got a black Friday email w updated pictures and the 1st boat...Wow!
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https://venturasportboats.com/ventura-2300/

This is an exciting development for the community!

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:20 pm
by NiceAft
Is it April’s Fool’s and I don’t know it, and six years late?

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:54 am
by Russ
Interesting. So is that the Tattoo 22 hull mold? Kind of looks like it.

The last post on the Tattoo 22 was TEN YEARS AGO!

https://tattooyachts.com/tattoo-22-photos/

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:03 pm
by OverEasy
A little closer look at the “brochure…. Please note the delivery date…….

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Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:48 pm
by Russ
OverEasy wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:03 pm A little closer look at the “brochure…. Please note the delivery date…….

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The plot thickens.

Re: Ventura 2300 actually gonna be built?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:32 pm
by NiceAft
Seems like I pointed that out earlier.

NiceAft wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:20 pm Is it April’s Fool’s and I don’t know it, and six years late?