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Does anyone have one of these?
Due to the other half of the crew saying she doesn't mind using the motor but the tilting with sails is a problem :? , it looks like I am going to be doing some single handed sailing.
I have bought one of these and along with all my other controls need to bring all lines aft.
Have had the spinaker since I bought the boat but haven't used it yet so it could be interesting.
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Post by kziadie »

I have a snuffer which is North Sails version of the same thing. On mine the control lines are actually one continuous line which you pull in opposite directions depending on whether you want to raise of douse. I am in the same predicament but I havent found a feasible solution. Cutting the line and splicing in extensions which would run aft would bring bring even more clutter into my cockpit (I already have 2 halyards, 2 jib sheets, 2 spin sheets, tack line, daggerboard line and furling line). To add not one but two more lines is something I am not too enthusiastic about.

Then you have the issue of rigging, I dont see how this can be a permanent installation. When the sock is not raised on the halyard, you would need some kind of quick disconnect for the lines then you could tie off the extensions to the rail. The disconnect would have to be compact and rounded so that it would not snag inside the sock.

If you can work this out you are a better man than I. This is the main reason that the biggest project I am contemplating for my boat is an autopilot so I can go forward on a broad reach.

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Post by beene »

Scott did it once, said it was like spaghetti.

I have the scoop, used it many times, so far always going fwd to open and close the spin. I just set the sheets the way I want before I go fwd.

I have picked up some extra blocks and tackle and am going to play around with some ideas seeing as how everything else I have is set up for lines aft single haded sailing.

Cheers

G

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Search chute scoop and include all terms, you should get lots of hits.
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Post by Scott »

Yup, we ran all lines aft on a chute scoop rigged X and it was a nightmare of snags and extra line.

Went right back to using the scoop from the forehatch and love it.

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Works great. I got mine from West Marine for $30. The frame is fiberglass and mine broke in several places; replaced free by WM.
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Post by kziadie »

:D :D :D

I think you got your threads mixed up Chip. That's an awfully small.... er... spinnaker you got there.

Kelly

PS. I almost got confused as well. There IS another current thread somewhere dealing with the WINDscoop
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Post by Boblee »

I think I will be advised and play with the scoop in the yard first, or my son in laws yard as he has more room for mishaps. :o
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Post by Scott »

Chip, where'd you find that cool storm spinnaker??

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Must be the "before vgra-xd" spinnaker.
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Post by Catigale »

Call your doctor if you sail for more than 4 hours...
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Post by beene »

Pee-Wee-Spin-Scoop :?:

What will they think of next :?:

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Post by Bawgy »

The chute scoop works well from the foredeck . I thought about lines aft but I dont plan on flying the chute single handed so I chose not too.
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Post by Terry »

kziadie wrote: This is the main reason that the biggest project I am contemplating for my boat is an autopilot so I can go forward on a broad reach.
Kelly
Kelly,
I just got my Raymarine ST4000 MKII AutoPilot last summer before they ran out, best $1100.00 I ever spent. The Admiral likes it more than I do. It won't be the biggest project though as it was not that difficult to install, I only had trouble with the rudder sensor, but got it right in the end. Best spot on the M for the fluxgate is at the foot of the companionway ladder, close to the floor, at least on the '03 model as I have no battery there. (mine faces aft and is mounted behind the ladder inside the hold there.)Still you may try mounting it forward facing (fiberglass is 1/2 inch thick there) with a thermostat cage around it so's nobody steps on it.
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Post by Chip Hindes »

Duh! So by 'chute scoop, you mean a spinnaker "sock?"

That'll teach me to skim rather than reading the whole thread.
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Post by Boblee »

Ok had a play in the back yard and besides putting the spinnaker in upside down it works ok (I think) but because I have an extra bracket for carrying my mast higher it could possibly foul that and besides it seems a bit long (spinnaker).

Next question for the experts I see the one on the Mac web site is flown outside the fore triangle is this better(it looks better). As my anchor roller extends a bit further now I could attach it there and put a hound above the forestay hound on the mast.

I imagine doing this I would be able to put a couple of blocks at the bottom to alter height and tension easily, practical? I suppose having it in front of the forestay and jib it would need to be doused prior to tacking?

Sure got some looks and comments from the golfers playing on the course outside the back fence :P .
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