2 forestays?

Retcoastie · Post by **Retcoastie** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:34 pm

The December SAIL magazine has a neat article about a guy who put a second, inner forestay behind his roller furler. Basically, he put a U-bolt thru the deck just far enough behind the forward chainplate to allow the second forestay to clear the furler. Then he pinned his new stay to the U-bolt. A second Jib Hound held the upper end and the halyard block, again with just enough spacing to clear the furler.

When in use the Inner forestay took a hanked on headsail while the genoa was furled. To use the geona, the Inner forestay was unhooked from the U-bolt and connected to the toerail near the shrouds, out of the way.

Looks easier than changing headsail on a furler.

Good Luck!

Frank C · Post by **Frank C** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:40 pm

Rarely on the Mac26, but it has been done. There are a couple previous threads, but can't suggest the best search terms. The thing is, most here are probably conservative enough to get home (or stay home) to avoid the winds that demand a storm jib.

Our J=10 feet. I think the mast raising padeye is about 75% of that distance, so with some reinforcing it might be well-placed. It's placed just forward of the forehatch opening though ... might be too much weakened by that opening?

Highlander has 2 forestays on his Mac 19, right?

eric3a · Post by **eric3a** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:10 pm

Retcoastie · Post by **Retcoastie** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:38 pm

This guy's system looked very similiar to what you pictured except his was fore and aft vs side by side. Operationally, he did un-hook and move the inner forestay when using the furler.

Thinking about the operation of the pictured system leads me to believe it would only work as anticipated on one tack but not the other if the downwind forestay was the next to be used. Wouldn't it be covered up by the in-use foresail ??? How would you rig the next needed sail ???

As I understand, his need was to go from the 150% geona to a smaller foresail in heavy air or for better pointing. By having fore and aft rigging he could hank on his stormsail before furling the geona on either tack.

But, that's why they make Ford and Chevys.

eric3a · Post by **eric3a** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:09 pm

ALX357 · Post by **ALX357** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:27 pm

Here is a thread with the mod of an added jib wire and halyard.
You may have to carefully read the thread a time or two to take it all in, as it's complicated to explain and depends on several added features.

It might fit your needs, or give some help in that direction.

http://macgregorsailors.com/phpBB/viewt ... t=jib+wire

eric3a · Post by **eric3a** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:42 pm

beene · Post by **beene** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:48 am

Eric

If you go ahead with that, be sure you attach a little polar bear like the picture for good luck, you might need it.

eric3a · Post by **eric3a** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:12 am

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:26 am

Eric,
The same fellow TT once sent me this article:
http://www.practical-sailor.com/newspic ... groove.pdf
A dual luff groove may be a viable option.

Craig LaForce · Post by **Craig LaForce** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:45 am

There were a couple of posts several yrs ago about 1 or 2 26Xs that had a second forestay setup.

Both looked pretty dicey. One used the front top of the bow rail as the attachment point, and a couple of whisker stays to brace the bow rail. (the bow rail is very thin wall stuff and easy to bend, I don't think that was a good idea.

The other one used a bow extension board like a bow roller, and again a couple of whisker stays or stiff supports of some sort. I don't remember exactly. Maybe search on bowsprit or something.

These might also be so long ago that they were part of the famous missing archives.

SOmething like this, with a turnbuckle and shroud down to the bow eye. might work reasonably well in normal conditions.
http://www.macgregorsailors.com/cgi-bin ... record=710

Richard O'Brien · Post by **Richard O'Brien** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:53 am

I like that triangle

Many times racing last summer, I found the need for a Jib on the upwind leg, but really like my big genny for light wind reaches and downwind. The side by side solution wouldn't allow interference from a hanked-on jib, and I could furl the genny when wind changes in the middle of a race. Everyone knows a partially furled genny isn't of much use. this might be a solution. If you do this mod, Eric, please let us know how it goes.

eric3a · Post by **eric3a** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:47 am

Duane Dunn, Allegro · Post by **Duane Dunn, Allegro** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:22 pm

Here is a mod I posted a few years ago. It's not my boat but a friends.

He has a genoa on the normal furler and a drifter on the furler mounted to the pulpit. There is not really a second headstay. The drifter has a wire sewn in the luff which connects to the furler swivel and drum.

http://www.macgregorsailors.com/cgi-bin ... record=281

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