Katrina inbound... looks like it's my turn

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Post by Moe »

Wind is down slightly, but look at wave height now:

Station 42040 - MOBILE SOUTH 64 nm South of Dauphin Island, AL
Conditions at 42040 as of (6:50 am CDT)
  • Wind Direction (WDIR): SSE ( 150 deg true )
    Wind Speed (WSPD): 52.4 kts
    Wind Gust (GST): 68.0 kts
    Wave Height (WVHT): 47.9 ft
    Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 13 sec
    Average Period (APD): 10.6 sec
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Yes, it wobbled slightly to the east, which appears to have prevented the "doomsday scenario" New Orleanians have long feared (though the city still got hit hard). So, hopefully my office will be ok.

At this point, I'm more worried about my house (in Slidell, which is east of the city) and the boat (near Pass Christian, east of Slidell on the Gulf Coast).

We've been watching the radar, and Slidell has been under torrential rainfall all morning. I'll be very surprised if we didn't get water in the house. And the numerous pine trees around the house are my biggest worry.

The boat is about 4 miles from the beach... I just heard on the news that in Gulfport (I think that's what he said), which is even further east of the storm, "sailboats have been pushed onto Hwy. 90" (Hwy. 90 runs along the beach). When I pulled my boat out of Pass Christian Harbor, though quite a few departed as I was prepping the boat for pull-out, there were numerous vessels still there. If boats are getting tossed onto the highway in Gulfport, I'm sure Pass Christian is faring even worse.

--Mike
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Post by RandyMoon »

We had 80 mph winds come though our area and it destroyed lots of boats. Mangled would be the keyword. I cannot imagine 160 mph winds. There is a kindred feeling among sailors and I hope the friends on this board and all the other sailors out there come through unscathed.

For some reason, boats become pretty damn important and personal to sailors. Maybe it is "the Old Man and the Sea" complex." I cannot imagine honing and tuning a boat for years to have all the trick stuff applied only to have it wiped out. People invest a lot of themselves in a boat. When you look at young families, it is a magic adventure. Seeing your boat in a heap can be traumatic.
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Post by Tripp Gal »

Pass is underwater I heard from a fellow southern ex-pat. I can't get a line through Mobile or Pascagoula to check on friends. If anyone has info about Mobile, Pascagoula, and Biloxi I would appreciate it.

Larry King just showed Southern Yacht Club on fire. Such a sad thing when I remember the fond memories sailing there.

Our friends and family know they are in our thoughts and prayers, for everyone else who was in Katrina's path our hearts go out to you as well. For non-sailors when they see pictures of boats floating down the street or wrapped in the powerlines in someon'es yard they say "cool". When sailors see something like that it makes them just sick to their stomachs.
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Prayers are with you and your friends Tripp..

I remember seeing a keelboat 5 miles inland from Andrew and thinking about the power that brought it there.....amazing....
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Just when all of us can breathe a sigh of relief for New Orleans people, such as Mike, another even more devastating problem occurs. Apparently, a two block long levee break has occurred in one of the canals in the north section of the city. Water is now rising at the rate of up to a foot/hour in the city. If they can't stop this, the worst case scenario of flood waters mixed with chemicals, sewage, corpses and the like might happen after all.

It's very sad to be watching all of this occur......
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Post by RandyMoon »

We all go to disaster movies and enjoy the rush, knowing a comet will not really hit our neighborhood, the ice age will not really encompass our part of the world, a nuclear blast will not really level our city.

But for the victims of these types of disasters, the end result is the same. Lives turned upside down. A horrible reality. And the truth is... these types of disasters can affect any of us on this board. None of us are immune from unimaginable tradegy.

In Kansas I have seen lots of stories about people whose home was erased by a tornado. Everything they have that represents their life...gone. It is easy to watch this remotely on TV, and never truely understand the true impact.

The message is... please contribute however you can to the immediate needs of these people. The wonder of our society is that in a disaster, people really come together and help. TV news likes to show the looting, but the main story is that people help people.
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the main story is that people help people
Well said, and underreported.

If the Creator ever comes after my stuff, I settle for a little girl hand in each of mine, and Barbara by my side.

All the rest of stuff can be replaced or remembered fondly - Ill have everything I need to go on with life.
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We're still in Memphis... the entire area is in shambles. I was obviously WRONG in my previous comment that New Orleans had avoided the doomsday scenario... it's happening NOW. The bridge over Lake Pontchartrain I drive on every day to go to work is destroyed, the city is almost entirely flooded, and the waters are continuing to rise still due to the levee failures. The city is really like a war zone. The only tiny bit of good news for me is that my office is just high enough so that I think it won't get water (though it's an office in the middle of a city with no power, no water, no sewerage, no access, and well no clients).

I'm quite worried about the strangers who had kindly helped me get our boat out of the water in Pass Christian... they mentioned they'd be riding out the storm there at the Yacht Club (which is, of course, right on the beach). If they did, they are dead. Not that it really matters considering the staggering scope of this catastrophe, but it's probable that our boat was destroyed and/or lost (the storm hit Pass Christian MUCH harder than expected). I was hoping that it could serve as temporary housing.

I don't know what damage imagery is more shocking to me... New Orleans or the Gulf Coast. The Gulf Coast was simply demolished, while in New Orleans, the destruction is painfully ongoing.

Information on my town of Slidell is very sketchy. Communication is down, and access to the area is very difficult. We heard the water tower was knocked down. We fully expect complete destruction of our house... high (4 - 5 ft.) flooding and a tree or two through the roof. Most information is just rumor... for instance, we've heard that a Catholic school down the street from our house got 8 ft. of water, and that it got NO water. However, we did get one small piece of solid information that has given us a slight glimmer of hope... a client in Lafayette sent me a couple of photos that, just by coincidence, were taken right around my neighborhood.

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This is a highway that runs behind my backyard... this photo was taken about 1/2 mile from my house. Believe it or not, this qualifies as "encouraging" to me, as the power poles are mostly standing, and not all the trees have been knocked down.


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Now, this one is VERY encouraging. This photo was taken very close to my house (if you were to turn to the right and walk through some woods and over a drainage canal, you'd be at the side of my house). In this photo, the water is only covering the streets and yards, but I'm sure it was taken after the water had receded. The encouraging part is that I THINK I see a waterline on the bricks of the mostly unobscured house (the darkened area), which seems to indicate we may have "only" gotten a foot or two of water in our house. Of course, we could still have a tree in our living room, but 1.5 - 2 ft. of water vs. 4 - 5 ft. of water will make a BIG difference in what our personal property losses are.

I was considering trying to drive back home tomorrow, even if just to briefly survey the damage, gather some belongings, then head back up here to Memphis. But so many roads are still impassable, and law enforcement is reportedly blocking entry anyway (though some people have managed to sneak in). I have a few neighbors who have taken refuge in Texas, and they're going to try to get back tomorrow and hopefully will be able to report out to us on the damage. If they're not able to reach us, I'll probably try to get down there myself on Thursday.

Wife and kids will stay here in Memphis for as long as needed (probably months).

--Mike
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Wife and kids will stay here in Memphis for as long as needed
God Bless Mike...hope all is as well as can be.
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Thank God you were lucky enough (smart enough?) to get you and your family out of there, though Im sure that thought will be hard to focus on for you in the coming months.

Not knowing what business you are in, I would think that unless youre in construction its time to relocate.

I sincerely hope that all goes as well as possible for you and your family.
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Post by Moe »

Hang in there, Mike, and keep hopes high. I PM'd you with some flood recovery info.

The hardest part for us is the lack of communications, except for satellite phones and ham radio, down there. We still haven't heard from my brother and his family on the west side of Biloxi near Gulfport. We have hope though, because they're 6 miles inland and their house sits on a knoll about 65' ASL according to the topo maps.
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Post by Dimitri-2000X-Tampa »

Mike (and any others in the path),

Sorry to hear about all this destruction in your hometown (saw Slidell on the news last night and thought about you). Like someone else said, the important thing is that you got yourself and your family out of there in time. It's hard to believe that so many people, especially in vorticity areas, did not evacuate. All the folks interviewed who stayed always have a common somber theme....I'll never do that again!

As a fellow Gulf coaster (my house is 7.9 ft ASL), I can understand how frustrating it must be not to be able to get any information...in reality, that is why some people stay, because they know they may not be able to get back for weeks. I've had to evacuate 3 times now over the last 10 years (including last year for Charley) and know that feeling of walking around imagining what it will look like when I return. It was bad enough experiencing Jeane's meager 70mph winds last year but it really makes you respect how awful it would be with 115+. No way I would want to ever subject my family to the shear terror of a major landfalling hurricane. Tampa got lucky again last year....the damage we sustained to siding, our roof, etc pales in comparison to real storm surge damage. There is not much that can withstand a 20+ ft surge. I always try to tell myself that houses, boats, personal stuff...it can all be replaced, in fact, most destroyed areas end up rebuilding much nicer than they were originally...seeing as the property has so much intrinsic value.

Hopefully, the cellular carriers are well underway installing temporary towers with generators. Of course, you have to be able to charge your cell phone somehow, but it is likely that this communication will return before land lines do.

Best of luck and I sincerely hope that you will find many of your things undamaged. Hopefully, your boat made it through as I know that would give your spirits a lift.

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Post by Mark Prouty »

Terrible situation. 80% of New Orleans flooded. Parts under 20 feet of water. The levies are still overflowing from the lake. Governer says it might be months before people can return. Widespread looting. Tens of thousands of refugees. It is going to be a tough recovery. A way of living gone.
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Post by Moe »

Just got an IM from my nephew in Mobile. My brother and his family in Biloxi are okay, and there was no damage to the house (trees are a different story). W H E W ! Thanks to all who were prayin' for 'em.
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