Anchor - bow roller - MacGregor 26M

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Anchor - bow roller - MacGregor 26M

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Hey everybody,

I am searching for a good and safe anchor for Greece.

I found this one and would like to have your opinion about it"
https://www.marinastores.gr/en/anchors- ... galvanized

What would you take 6 or 10kg and with how much chain and robe?
The other thing is: would such an anchor fit on the "normal" bow roller that I have? Or would I need an extension? I can imagine that the forces will be more when I will put an extension for the boat, thats why I would like to avoid it.

I even heard about "box anchor". Have anyone experience with it?

Thanks a lot!!!
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Hello, I would go with 10 kg. I personally use 15m of chain and then a leaded line. But you can also do it differently. If you want to lower the anchor in the roller, you have to check whether the shaft fits under the CDI furling drum. I personally use the 11kg Jambo anchor (and a spare 8kg Jambo) and I had to sand down the anchor roller a bit to make sure the shaft fit. I can also fold the Jambo and stow it in the anchor locker. It all works!

Seems you have a new foresail... :)
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I agree with Kurz, the 10kg is best. Depending on conditions, I would go with 10meters of chain at least.
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Dandorth recommends a 9-lb anchor for our boat, so a 10-lb one should do the job nicely in most conditions.

The calculation for rode is a commonly available… here’s one model:

https://www.anchorchaincalculator.com/

Keep in mind, however, that anchor scope is based on the vertical distance from the sea bottom to where the anchor rode comes aboard at the bow, not from the sea bottom to the water line. With a Mac, which floats with a bow fairly high above the water, this makes a big difference. For example, 30 feet of anchor rode in 6 feet of water would be calculated by many as a 5:1 scope (the recommended scope for a rode), but with the Mac bow being about 4 feet above the waterline, your actual scope with 30 feet of rode would be about 3:1, which is inadequate.
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This is the anchor I use on my 2005 :macm: .
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It weighs 5.4kg, and has 9.1m of chain. For your needs, I would think 10kg, along with 9.1m of chain. For some, 10k may be too much to lift.

I also have a Danforth (5.4kg) for a back up anchor. It too has 9.1m of chain.

Lastly, what Kevin posted is important. When figuring out the rode, knowing the water depth is not enough, add 1.2 m onto the water depth calculation.
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I should also note that I carry a mushroom anchor as well, with a 6-foot coated chain and 30 foot rode, stored in the aft locker (I have an inboard fuel tank). The anchor serves two purposes - it limits swinging at anchor when deployed off the stern, and when deployed off the bow it also serves as an additional anchor in the event that my Danforth doesn't fully do the job.
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Hi Agi!

What kind of bottom surface conditions exist where you want to anchor is key to selecting the better anchor to use.

Anchoring in mud, silt, sand, pebbles, fist sized rocks, boulders, shelf rock, sea grass or coral can all impact the kind of anchor to use. So it’s not a one size fits all kind of thing. There is also the aspect of certain legal restrictions in protected maritime environments where it may not be possible to anchor at all. What?! Yup! When one drops anchor there are several things to consider.

(The actual anchor generally works best when used with an appropriate gauge & length of chain so that the shank can remain parallel to the seabed. This allows the flukes of the anchor to properly ‘bite’ into the bottom surface to become a ‘fixation’ point. Simple enough, but boats move around on the top of the water… wind, waves, currents, tides …. these all cause the boat to basically circle the ‘fixation’ point provided by the properly ‘set’ anchor. The chain that lies on the sea bottom pretty much sweeps the surrounding seabed as the boat repeatedly changes its surface position. This does immediate damage any plant and/or aquatic life that the chain comes into contact with sort of like a slow motion weed whacker which is why there are increasing restrictions, especially in sensitive protected environments such as where there is sea grass and coral, on where one can drop anchor. Those types of restrictions are becoming more common as tge repeated damage caused by boat anchoring has become more and more evident. It’s something to be aware of to check out if there are specific areas you are intending on visiting or frequenting.)

Getting back to anchor type selection… One of the best aids I’ve come across in selecting an anchor appropriate to bottom conditions was done by SV Panope
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=ancho ... Fuk3U,st:0
He’s done a very good job of real world testing a large variety of anchors in a variety of real world bottom types.
It’s worth looking at to help understand what’s happening.
Here is I believe the most current results chart from SV Panope Episode 141
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Just an additional note… personally I feel that there’s never going to be one anchor that ‘actually does it all’.
We primarily utilize a Danforth here in coastal South Carolina as our area is predominantly sand/silt/mud which the Danforth excels at.
When bottom conditions change to harder materials we utilize a pivoting CQR anchor.
In one instance we utilized both anchors with a ‘Y’ bridle. (It worked fine but took time to unwind the rodes)
We utilize a 12-to-15 ft length of 5/16 inch dia galvanized link chain on a 1/2 inch dia 250 ft nylon rode.

Best Regards
Over Easy 8) 8)

Some additional information:
Anchor chain damage negatively affects a variety of seabed habitats worldwide:
Coral reefs: Anchor chains can break or stress corals, which are fragile and slow-growing. The loss of coral reduces the complex, three-dimensional structure of the reef, negatively impacting the biodiversity that relies on the habitat for shelter and food.
Seagrass meadows: Often referred to as nurseries for marine life, these vital habitats are highly vulnerable to being ripped out by dragging chains.
Rhodolith beds: These areas are made up of calcified red algae and are important habitats for many species. They are easily damaged by mechanical disturbance.
Sponge colonies: In a variety of different regions several studies have documented anchor damage to giant, century-old sponge colonies, which are particularly vulnerable to mechanical disturbance.

How anchor chains cause damage:
Dragging and scouring: When a vessel is anchored, wind and currents can cause it to move or "swing." This movement drags the heavy anchor chain across the seafloor, creating long, barren scour marks. This dragging action can destroy delicate ecosystems like seagrass meadows, coral reefs, and sponge gardens.
Crushing: The heavy links of an anchor chain can crush and dislodge fragile marine organisms upon impact. In areas with hard corals, which can take decades to grow, a single strike from a chain can cause devastating damage that takes many years to recover.
Excavation and displacement: For larger, high-tonnage vessels, anchoring can physically excavate the seabed, displacing large volumes of sediment. One 2022 study in New Zealand found that a single large ship could excavate the seabed by up to 80 cm, displacing up to 2,800 cubic meters of sediment. This disturbance can alter sedimentation patterns and destroy soft-sediment habitats.
Retrieval damage: As the anchor and chain are retrieved, they can snag and entangle objects and marine life on the seabed, causing additional destruction.
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My :macm: carries a 22lb (10kg) claw style anchor on the rolller with about 10 meters of chain.

This has served me well. Of course bottom conditions are critical in selecting a type of anchor.

I have 2 smaller fluke style anchors as backup, however I rarely use them.



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This may help, or, may just add to the confusion :D
https://www.westmarine.com/west-advisor ... nchor.html
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50 lb Luke anchor for the win. At least in the Florida Keys. On an all chain rode.

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Thank you all for your answers and the amazing information!!!
I am really greatful for this platform!

@kurz how big is the chain 6mm/ 8mm or 10mm? and which thickness has your nylon rope? and can you handle this by hand? the Jamno anchor looks very nice!
Yes I have a new foresail :), if anybody needs a new one in Europe the "Quantum sails company" here in Athens, has the precise dimensions of the old original MacGregor foresail and of the mainsail and they made me a new one.

@Russ what thickness would you take of the chain 6mm/ 8mm or 10mm? and what thickness for the nylon robe? and what can I do if the 10kg Alpha anchor doesn't fit because of its form? Can I just buy a longer bow roller? or do I have to reinforce the bow area?

@kmlemore do you think that a 6kg anchor with a 10meter 6/ 8mm or 10mm will be even enough?

@NiceAft this Delta anchor is very nice! did you had to modify the bow roller and was an extension needed? what thickness do you use for the chain and for the nylon robe?

@OverEasy thanks for all the information and all the details!!! I hadn't thought about that aspect that in general anchors can have a negative effect on the environment (its a good point and makes sence!) thx for sharing
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Ixneigh wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:38 pm 50 lb Luke anchor for the win. At least in the Florida Keys. On an all chain rode.

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I don’t doubt the accuracy of the post, but I would like to see a poll of those who could comfortably lift such a beast 23kg. :D I know at 76 I still can, but I don’t want to. Interested in seeing such a poll :evil:
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Hi NiceAft!

:D Loved your
I still can, but I don’t want to
!!! :D

I sure such a heavy anchor has its admirers but it would be a bit much for us on a regular basis.

I’m already wanting (wishing) for a drum winch for the anchors we already have! :D
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re: lifting large anchor
i installed a windlass for oversized anchors. the Luke is used mostly in water less that 15 ft deep. Its "catted" just like on old time sailing ships, off the side of the bow, so it never comes aboard.

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Ixneigh wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:38 pm 50 lb Luke anchor for the win. At least in the Florida Keys. On an all chain rode.

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I used one very much like that in the Keys in my youth. It was on a 16' boat so it was a bit lighter but it was the same design. I suspect there was more tradition than science involved in the selection. It did work though.
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