In the market for a used main sail

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In the market for a used main sail

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My main sail is now 25 years old. It's got a 4 foot rip long the leech I have tried and failed to patch with sail tape. Another along the foot at the boom end, which I tie off with line.

I sourced a replacement at my local loft and it came back at $2500+tax. I am told that is not in the cards for this summer.

Wondered if anyone has a spare main sail for a 2000-ish :macx: kicking around.

I am in Toronto Canada.
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Re: In the market for a used main sail

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My custom tri-radial sail from precision sail is less than 1000. EDIT, a normal sail is less than 1000, mine is actually slightly over.
They are in Canada and while they want you to measure your boat, they seem first rate.
Plenty of off the shelf ones available too.
On edit, I looked at my invoice:
New mainsail, Tri-radial, 4 full battons, setup for track system 1,134 USD
A regular cross cut is much cheaper.

That being said, my old sail is now sitting in a wad in my garage. (front sail might be a 120% had the ring tear off, so I am buying a set).
Someone could repair as the cloth is still good. (stretched out also)
If you want to contact the local UPS office and check for shipping, I do not mind dropping both off.
Please note both are oversized, stretched out.
To get the foresail to work, I put blocks on the rearward safety poles.
The main I released the boltrope from the materai at the ends so I could pull the cloth straight, Then I added slugs, however the sail material has been protected from UV and is still strong, I was using it until 3 weeks ago.

My local UPS store =

(817) 508-8675
2248 Central Dr
Ste 107
Bedford, TX 76021
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Post by Stickinthemud57 »

A new Rolly Tasker mainsail can be had from Thesailwarehouse for less than $800:

https://thesailwarehouse.com/products/r ... ain-24-75m

They also have a big inventory of used sails.
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leefrankpierce wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:24 am That being said, my old sail is now sitting in a wad in my garage. (front sail might be a 120% had the ring tear off, so I am buying a set).
Someone could repair as the cloth is still good. (stretched out also)
If you want to contact the local UPS office and check for shipping, I do not mind dropping both off.
Please note both are oversized, stretched out.
Thanks for the offer, but my own is pretty blown out too. If I understand you, I think yours wouldn't be much better.
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Stickinthemud57 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:54 am A new Rolly Tasker mainsail can be had from Thesailwarehouse for less than $800:

https://thesailwarehouse.com/products/r ... ain-24-75m

They also have a big inventory of used sails.
It looks like they have Mac-specific sails on-hand. Being that I'm new at sail purchasing, I think I'd prefer this over measuring and sending specs to hav a sail made.


This is what is listed under :macx: :
https://thesailwarehouse.com/products/r ... ain-24-75m
Not sure about the options.
Powerhead? makes a sail a little faster
Standard v. full battens? Full adds $250. I currently have standard.
Reefs? I currently have one. A second reef adds $100. I'll consider it.

So the one I'm not really sure about is the battens. What is your preference?

I'm reading up on them and I am thinking maybe I'll stick with what I know. It sounds like full battens can have repercussions I'm not ready to deal with.

UPDATE:

I went ahead and bought one of their in-stock sails for $1050 + $50 shipping. Single reef, standard battens.

They say "Available and Ready to Ship in Time for Your Next Sail" whereas the Special Orders can take 7-8 weeks. We'll see how long it takes.
(The Order Confirm page says "Current delivery estimate: Tue, Jun 18–Wed, Jun 19". I'll be impressed if it really arrives tomorrow!)
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Congrats on your new sail purchase!
Powerhead = does not work with our X. Sail is extended at the top to be more square and thus extends beyond the backstay.
Full battons = helps with sail shape and I hope managing getting the sail down into the sail pack flaked in a reasonable way. Adds stress to the sail-mast connection, thus Precision would not add them unless I added a track that supports sail-cars that are designed to deal with the batton-mast connection.
Reef's, I read that the single is usually somewhere in-between where the first and second would go. My opinion = I only handle 1 reef, if a second is needed, my sails come down and I go to the dock. I would presume someone sailing bigger waters would need more options.
As mentioned in my post about my new sails, I had created a differing situation with my bimini causing me to move my boom higher up the mast.
If I had left the boat stock, I would have done the same as you.
Summary: I think you ordered exactly what you needed. Have no idea what the shipping would have been for my old one, but the $ is better spent on fresh canvas.
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leefrankpierce wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:32 am I had created a differing situation with my bimini causing me to move my boom higher up the mast.
Yes, my topping lift is in danger of rubbing on my bimini. My last bimini had hte whole leading edge rubbed away.
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*sigh* Of course it couldn't be easy....

When the delivery arrived, UPS wanted an exta $274, whoch, accprding to the paper, is for GST and brokerage.

I don't know why Rolly Tasker (or The Sale Warehouse - I don't know who I'm dealing with anymore) couldn't have known about that, especally considering the number of times I mentioned I'm in Canada, and he still said it's a mystery.

But worse, the sail came with a tag that says it's for a Mac 25.
Luff: 24.?5
Leech: 26.90
Foot: 10.10
Weight: 5oz.

I'm comparing that to the :macx: specs, here: https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/macgregor-26x/
but frankly I don't know my I from my J from my K.

If I'm reading this right, a :macx: fits a 25' luff and a 10.38' foot.
If that's true, then I'm golden.


(Is 5oz. weight enough?)
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Post by leefrankpierce »

My old sail had a 23'8" luff, but I could raise it above my boom fittings by a significant amount, so it sounds like your luff should fit better than mine did.
Also remember mine was shrunk where the bolt ropes were, and stretched where not, so my luff was probably longer when new.
Foot = 10'3"
Leech = 26'2"
Only way to be sure is to hang it on the boat.

Looking at someone else measurement form, 23'6" is what they measured.
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According to the Wadler Sail Page, The 26X sails are:

-------LUFF LEACH FOOT
Main 24'9" 25'11" 10'5"
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It depends on you, but you can vary a little. I bought a pair of Hunter 21 mainsails (new) on Ebay for just a couple hundred (the Hunter 21 is discontinued). They worked very nicely. Still have them, but got a "deal" on another set a few years later. 8)
Hamin' X wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 5:34 pm According to the Wadler Sail Page, The 26X sails are:

-------LUFF LEACH FOOT
Main 24'9" 25'11" 10'5"
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Yes, that will happen ANY TIME they use UPS for shipping to Canada. Fortunately there are options. I use www.crossborderpickups.ca They provide you with a US address in NY Niagara Falls and you ship everything there. They bring the items across the border and you can pick it up from their warehouse near Pearson Airport. The cost is as little as $10 per package. I ordered rolly tusker sails, which is an American company as far as I know and because of NAFTA I paid no duty. I paid only HST. I did this for my daggerboard (ruddercraft is US company) and BWYachts orders.


DaveC426913 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:18 am *sigh* Of course it couldn't be easy....

When the delivery arrived, UPS wanted an exta $274, whoch, accprding to the paper, is for GST and brokerage.

I don't know why Rolly Tasker (or The Sale Warehouse - I don't know who I'm dealing with anymore) couldn't have known about that, especally considering the number of times I mentioned I'm in Canada, and he still said it's a mystery.

But worse, the sail came with a tag that says it's for a Mac 25.
Luff: 24.?5
Leech: 26.90
Foot: 10.10
Weight: 5oz.

I'm comparing that to the :macx: specs, here: https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/macgregor-26x/
but frankly I don't know my I from my J from my K.

If I'm reading this right, a :macx: fits a 25' luff and a 10.38' foot.
If that's true, then I'm golden.


(Is 5oz. weight enough?)
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Prospect wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:04 am Yes, that will happen ANY TIME they use UPS for shipping to Canada.
I just wish, in all the times I asked him about it, he had once said "Oh, yeah, you're in Canada, so there'll be a hefty customs fee".

Anyway, I guess I made my point a little too well, since he refunded me 50% of the fee. Even though I told him that was very generous but completely unnecessary.
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DaveC426913 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:18 am *sigh* Of course it couldn't be easy....

When the delivery arrived, UPS wanted an exta $274, whoch, accprding to the paper, is for GST and brokerage.

I don't know why Rolly Tasker (or The Sale Warehouse - I don't know who I'm dealing with anymore) couldn't have known about that, especally considering the number of times I mentioned I'm in Canada, and he still said it's a mystery.

But worse, the sail came with a tag that says it's for a Mac 25.
Luff: 24.?5
Leech: 26.90
Foot: 10.10
Weight: 5oz.

I'm comparing that to the :macx: specs, here: https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/macgregor-26x/
but frankly I don't know my I from my J from my K.

If I'm reading this right, a :macx: fits a 25' luff and a 10.38' foot.
If that's true, then I'm golden.


(Is 5oz. weight enough?)
I think the specs are right but the tag is wrong. From their website, the dimensions given for a 26X mainsail are

Luff: 24.75
Leech: 26.2
Foot: 10.1

I would bet you are not dealing directly with Rolly Tasker, but a distributor. The local guy who tells me he bought out Thesailwarehouse.com a few years back serves our area, but I don't know if he is the only North America rep or not.

On one hand it's nice they covered 50% of the unexpected charges, but yes, it would have been better had they caught that before shipping.
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Re: In the market for a used main sail

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Minney's surplus in Costa Mesa California has endless sails. 949 548 4192.
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