Question on genoa usage
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trswem
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Question on genoa usage
Howdy folks. I had my local sail shop make me a 125% hank on genoa to be used for light air cruising. My plan is to use this for winds <10 knots and switch to my stock jib at anything above that. I'm curious what it's like using a 125% on winds over 10kts. Are we healing pretty hard at 15? I'll go out an experiment of course, but I'd love to hear your experience with hank on genoas and how are boats behave. Thanks!
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Re: Question on genoa usage
On my M model, the hank on standard jib is good in ten knots. But I like to keep the heel to a minimum because of my dogs, and don’t mind the half a knot hit in speed. Highlander is the undisputed headsail champ, so maybe he can give an opinion
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Re: Question on genoa usage
I have a 26S, similar to yours, but not quite the same.
Before I went to the Big Jib rig, I used a 150% genoa most of the time. I found I could manage it OK in winds up to about 13-14 mph, but I was dumping a lot of wind out of the main to ease heeling and rounding up. Above that I would go with the standard jib, but still needed to reef the main as winds got much above 16 mph.
Early on, I replaced my standard rudder with an airfoil rudder and noticed an improvement in heeling and rounding up. If you still have the standard rudder that will play into the equation.
Before I went to the Big Jib rig, I used a 150% genoa most of the time. I found I could manage it OK in winds up to about 13-14 mph, but I was dumping a lot of wind out of the main to ease heeling and rounding up. Above that I would go with the standard jib, but still needed to reef the main as winds got much above 16 mph.
Early on, I replaced my standard rudder with an airfoil rudder and noticed an improvement in heeling and rounding up. If you still have the standard rudder that will play into the equation.
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Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL
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Re: Question on genoa usage
I prefer hanked-on head sails (instead of RF). It makes it a lot easier to get the mast up and down, and trailer. I
always have a head sail down haul line attached to the top or second hank, through some fairleads aft to the cockpit so I can drop it if it's too much.
I'm working on a self-tacking jib on my current Mac, a '90 26D.
always have a head sail down haul line attached to the top or second hank, through some fairleads aft to the cockpit so I can drop it if it's too much.
I'm working on a self-tacking jib on my current Mac, a '90 26D.
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Re: Question on genoa usage
Heeling at 15 knots is more of a function of your main, not your genoa.
trswem wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:46 am Howdy folks. I had my local sail shop make me a 125% hank on genoa to be used for light air cruising. My plan is to use this for winds <10 knots and switch to my stock jib at anything above that. I'm curious what it's like using a 125% on winds over 10kts. Are we healing pretty hard at 15? I'll go out an experiment of course, but I'd love to hear your experience with hank on genoas and how are boats behave. Thanks!
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Re: Question on genoa usage
You might want to check out my self-tacking rig:Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 6:09 pm I prefer hanked-on head sails (instead of RF). It makes it a lot easier to get the mast up and down, and trailer. I
always have a head sail down haul line attached to the top or second hank, through some fairleads aft to the cockpit so I can drop it if it's too much.
I'm working on a self-tacking jib on my current Mac, a '90 26D.
https://macgregorsailors.com/forum/view ... ng#p366891
If I recall correctly, that headsail is from an Etchells 22. They are plentiful on the used market.
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Re: Question on genoa usage
I've got a 150 genny on a furler.
Yeah, I heel pretty good in 15 knots. 25 degrees sustained. She wants to round up so I keep the main in-hand and ease it regularly, so I end up sort "scalloping".
But with the furler I can just reel in 50% or more.
Yeah, I heel pretty good in 15 knots. 25 degrees sustained. She wants to round up so I keep the main in-hand and ease it regularly, so I end up sort "scalloping".
But with the furler I can just reel in 50% or more.
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Re: Question on genoa usage
On my 26 x i have 125 hank on. Bought it used in good condition. I have great success up about 18 knots over that I experienced uncontrollable weather helm. That particular time it was the only sail up . Had boat speed around 6.5 downwind. Really love that sail easy to drop and tie down when the winds get to much
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Re: Question on genoa usage
I had a similar experience when I went through a period of "Genoa only" sailing and didn't even use my main at all. I have a roller fuller, so it was easy to reef as needed, but I was mainly sailing on a round lake about five miles wide and just enjoying beam or broad reaches back and forth.Gotro wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:35 am On my 26 x i have 125 hank on. Bought it used in good condition. I have great success up about 18 knots over that I experienced uncontrollable weather helm. That particular time it was the only sail up . Had boat speed around 6.5 downwind. Really love that sail easy to drop and tie down when the winds get to much

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Re: Question on genoa usage
Ditto
Herschel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:59 pmI had a similar experience when I went through a period of "Genoa only" sailing and didn't even use my main at all. I have a roller fuller, so it was easy to reef as needed, but I was mainly sailing on a round lake about five miles wide and just enjoying beam or broad reaches back and forth.Gotro wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:35 am On my 26 x i have 125 hank on. Bought it used in good condition. I have great success up about 18 knots over that I experienced uncontrollable weather helm. That particular time it was the only sail up . Had boat speed around 6.5 downwind. Really love that sail easy to drop and tie down when the winds get to much
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Re: Question on genoa usage
When sailing downwind with both the Genoa and the main, wing on wing is a thing of beauty.
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