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Hello
Does some one use a rearview mirror (water ski) ?
What is the best? Stanchion mount? Boat mount?
I use the Bimini, so is it possible with the 26m to have good rear view with a rearview mirror, when the Bimini is closed?

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There is some discussion about this here:

https://macgregorsailors.com/forum/view ... hp?t=28007
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I believe Herschel uses one. I may be wrong, but I believe he posted about this once.
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I'm pretty sure I remember seeing it a few months ago when we visited a few months ago.

Here's the link discussing it: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28007
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Be Free wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:42 am I'm pretty sure I remember seeing it a few months ago when we visited a few months ago.

Here's the link discussing it: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28007
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I realize this opinion hasn't been asked for but...

I thought the only appropriate reaview mirror for waterskiing is another crew person. i.e. if you need a rear-view mirror then you are not waterskiing safely.
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DaveC426913 wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:25 pm I realize this opinion hasn't been asked for but...

I thought the only appropriate reaview mirror for waterskiing is another crew person. i.e. if you need a rear-view mirror then you are not waterskiing safely.
Yes I do so. But the rearview mirror would be good even if you have 2nd person.
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When I was spending most of my time sailing rivers and lakes I seriously considered putting a mirror in similar to the one Hershel installed. It is a lot easier for a boat to "sneak up" on you from behind when you can only see a short distance. You don't have to be pulling a skier to want to keep a close eye on what's behind you.
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Be Free wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:12 am When I was spending most of my time sailing rivers and lakes I seriously considered putting a mirror in similar to the one Hershel installed. It is a lot easier for a boat to "sneak up" on you from behind when you can only see a short distance. You don't have to be pulling a skier to want to keep a close eye on what's behind you.
True.

Although personally I prefer to foster the habit of looking in all directions frequently.


I often make forays into Toronto's inner harbour where it is extremely busy with a lot of large ferries and small, fast taxis. They cross every which way, and - despite the fact that, in theory I am the stand-on vessel - "might makes right" and I have to give these things a wide berth.

They can be on top of you in seconds (especially from multiple directions simultaneously!), so that you always have to have escape route A and B at the ready.

But that's me.
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Dave,

I don’t know Canadian maritime law, but in the U.S. you are not the stand on vessel when it comes to commercial vessels.

For those who have never tried to have a leisurely cruise on a busy large city harbor, it can be quite an experience. Up close those large tankers are intimidating. They are upon you quickly.
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NiceAft wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:48 am I don’t know Canadian maritime law, but in the U.S. you are not the stand on vessel when it comes to commercial vessels.
Good point. Things are never so simple.

Boating in Toronto Harbour
"Beyond the usual rules of giving the right-of-way to sailboats, special preference should be given to commercial ships coming in and out of the port, as they aren’t afforded the same level of agility as a smaller pleasure craft. Float planes should also be given the right-of-way as they are committed to a specific flight path which they cannot deviate from. This also goes for the ferry travelling to and from Billy Bishop airport. Causing the ferry to change its course will not bode well for your enjoyment of the day."
https://www.autotrader.ca/editorial/202 ... o-harbour/

A lotta "should"s in there...


Also, I thought they had deprecated the term "right-of-way". To make it clear that no vessel has a "right" to right-of-way.

I always remember rule zero: "Thou shalt not collide with another vessel, nor through inaction, allow a collision to occur."
Both vessels must do everything in their power to avoid a collision.
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One other point. Again, in the U.S., a sailboat can only have unlimited right of way over a powerboat if under sail. If under power, no universal right of way.
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NiceAft wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:09 pm One other point. Again, in the U.S., a sailboat can only have unlimited right of way over a powerboat if under sail. If under power, no universal right of way.
Yes. That holds here too.

The only time we must be under power is when passing through the narrow West channel into the harbor. Other than that, all bets are off.



Again though, I note that the term "right-of-way" no longer appears in our boating laws. "Stand-on" is the preferred term.

https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transpor ... rules-road
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:D I was using normal speak, not official maritime jargon.
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NiceAft wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:48 am Dave,

I don’t know Canadian maritime law, but in the U.S. you are not the stand on vessel when it comes to commercial vessels.

For those who have never tried to have a leisurely cruise on a busy large city harbor, it can be quite an experience. Up close those large tankers are intimidating. They are upon you quickly.
Can you please cite your source for the statement that "in the U.S. you are not the stand on vessel when it comes to commercial vessels"?
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