26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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You really need to put the rig up and find your fairlead location based on your setup. It has to go where it works correctly with your rig.
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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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jimmy alonso wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:25 am Very much the wrong pin for the forestay.
+1!

Something called a "quick release" pin should not be used on "safety-critical" rigging. :o
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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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NiceAft wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm
Here is my wonderful setup for the roller furler.
If it works for you fine, but it does appear to be too far aft.

As I posted earlier, I was told by my dealer(17 years ago) to run the line from the drum, to outside of the bow pulpit, and then straight back (but inside) to the cleat in front of the port winch. It has worked fine.

I am telling you this because what you have might be causing the abrasion on your furler line, and instead of doing drilling in your deck to reposition the fairlead, it might be easier to just have your furler line match the setup I have been using; not that the systems others have pointed out are bad, which they are not, it’s just that you may not wish to drill more holes in the boat.
Thank you for stating this, again. I missed it the first time. That seems like a very simple and elegant solution. I really was scratching my head about how to add a fairlead to the deck without introducing a leak spot.

How polished is your pulpit upright from acting as a line guide?
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Good question, I never checked.

Right now Nice Aft is wrapped up for the winter, but I might be able to look and photograph. I will check tomorrow. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Here is a photo of the bow pulpit front support after seventeen years of use.
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The only thing I see is a ding from something, but definitely not a rub wear.

Once around that support, it’s a straight shot back to the cockpit.
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The only potential wear is when furling. When unfurling, that line has no resistance, it’s running free.
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NiceAft wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:21 am Here is a photo of the bow pulpit front support after seventeen years of use.
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The only thing I see is a ding from something, but definitely not a rub wear.

Once around that support, it’s a straight shot back to the cockpit.
Image

The only potential wear is when furling. When unfurling, that line has no resistance, it’s running free.
Thanks. Your pulpit support looks extra polished, but I don't see any issues with this method of routing the furling line. I've ordered a replacement line from BWY (along with a forestay pin!) and will give it a shot when I'm next out.
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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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My forestay popped at the top. Everything crashed down. I pulled it all out of the water and motored home. Lesson: check your rigging regularly.
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Found a picture of furler for a 2004 :macm:
BWY pin.
Backup Line.
Furler line routing.


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jimmy alonso wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:21 am Found a picture of furler for a 2004 :macm:
BWY pin.
Backup Line.
Furler line routing.


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Great pic! Thanks for posting that.

Your fairlead is just about where mine is (but mine is a block). It looks like yours (and mine) may not be perfectly located to put the furling line to mid drum at a 90 degree angle (may just be the picture angle). At any rate, I don't think a fairlead location further aft than ours would work very well. Looks like we are almost chafing on the top flange of the drum.

The cleat location may be an issue for optimal fairlead location. Wouldn't want a dock line ripping the fairlead off the deck. I'll be looking at that next trip.
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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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NiceAft wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:39 am Not trying to start a tangent thread, but I did want to tell Jimmy Alonso that it’s good to see any post by him. Mis saludos a Rosa y David.
I must agree - I hope they are doing well.

I have a line to the kite hound even though I have no spinnaker (I use the line to hoist a Genoa sock) so when sailing we use the kite halyard as an emergency forestay:


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NiceAft wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:21 am Here is a photo of the bow pulpit front support after seventeen years of use.

The only thing I see is a ding from something, but definitely not a rub wear.

Once around that support, it’s a straight shot back to the cockpit.

The only potential wear is when furling. When unfurling, that line has no resistance, it’s running free.
Well, I went out today - I received the BWYachts pin this week, but didn't have a chance to change the furling line and had to use the old worn out line. I tried your technique of routing around the stanchion and, even with the old line, it worked a treat. Looking at the furler as I pulled the furling line to wrap the headsail, the line was almost perfectly centered, with absolutely no chafe.

Amazingly simple solution! Thank you so much!
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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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Idiotfool wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:25 pm
NiceAft wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:21 am Here is a photo of the bow pulpit front support after seventeen years of use.

The only thing I see is a ding from something, but definitely not a rub wear.

Once around that support, it’s a straight shot back to the cockpit.

The only potential wear is when furling. When unfurling, that line has no resistance, it’s running free.
Well, I went out today - I received the BWYachts pin this week, but didn't have a chance to change the furling line and had to use the old worn out line. I tried your technique of routing around the stanchion and, even with the old line, it worked a treat. Looking at the furler as I pulled the furling line to wrap the headsail, the line was almost perfectly centered, with absolutely no chafe.

Amazingly simple solution! Thank you so much!
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Anyone know what that camera thing is? Is for seeing in the dark? Or maybe it's a telescope long rang thing? Anyone got cameras mounted? I would like help mounting cameras - I would like to see far away from the top of the mast for one thing - is it possible? Is it a good idea?? :?

Does anyone have cameras mounted on their boat?

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BOAT wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:34 pm Anyone know what that camera thing is? Is for seeing in the dark? Or maybe it's a telescope long rang thing? Anyone got cameras mounted? I would like help mounting cameras - I would like to see far away from the top of the mast for one thing - is it possible? Is it a good idea?? :?

Does anyone have cameras mounted on their boat?
I saw that also. I suppose it could be used when on autopilot and below deck to see what's in front.

I found this mast-mounted video. Kind of interesting.

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Re: 26M Owners - Ever lose your forestay while sailing?

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BOAT wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:34 pm Anyone know what that camera thing is? Is for seeing in the dark? Or maybe it's a telescope long rang thing? Anyone got cameras mounted? I would like help mounting cameras - I would like to see far away from the top of the mast for one thing - is it possible? Is it a good idea?? :?

Does anyone have cameras mounted on their boat?
Only on paper (so far). I think that a power over ethernet (POE) camera with night vision would be useful mounted on the mast. It is amazing how much they can see in low light. They don't weight much so they won't add too much to the weight aloft and will only require a single ethernet cable for power and data.
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