I hate the rudder

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Re: I hate the rudder

Post by Hamin' X »

Pictures must be placed on a public server such as PhotoBucket. The instructions that follow are for photobucket, but other image hosting sites will be similar and this is not an endorsment of photobucket.

Go to your photobucket account.
Hover your mouse pointer over the picture that you want.
Several options will appear.
Go down to the IMG code and left click in the code box to the right.
Left click in the code box and select copy.

Now, while composing your post on this forum, right click at the place that you want the pic to appear and select paste. It will look like this:

Code: Select all

Here is a picture that I took in the San Juan Islands:

[img]http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr321/Hamin-X/Gato128.jpg[/img]

Cool, huh?
It will appear on the forum like this:

Here is a picture that I took in the San Juan Islands:

Image

Cool, huh?

The forum software will automatically re-size the pic for easy viewing and when a member left clicks on it, the original size will be viewable. The board does not actually download, or store the pic, it just uses the code to make your browser do the work. Repeat for up to three pics/post. It is best to use the "Preview" option, to make sure that everything is OK, before you submit the post. There is a three picture limit/post, to help protect those that still have slow internet (me when out & about).

Flickr is a little more difficult.
  • Left click on the pic that you want to post.
    Above the pic, left click on "All Sizes".
    Left click on the size that you want to post. Large works best.
    Right click on the pic.
    Left click on "Properties". A window will open.
    Beside Address (URL), is the url that you will post. Copy all lines of it.
    I triple click on it and it highlights all of it.
    Copy and paste this between the [Img] tags in your post.
Enjoy,

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Re: I hate the rudder

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Sorry, and thank you, but that seems like an unusual amount of work to upload one picture :? . I will e-mail to anyone who is interested.
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Re: I hate the rudder

Post by Hamin' X »

Certainly, that is your choice, but the purpose of this forum is to share our experience and expertise with all Mac owners. Websites like PhotoBucket are also great for archiving your photos, just in case you have a computer failure; and you will. Carry on.

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Re: I hate the rudder

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My V-222 Windsong is circa 1970. The swing rudder had to be shoved down into position and a bolt (or similar shaft) put through a hole through the black aluminum "cheek plates" to keep it down. Bad idea. Ran aground at slow speed and cracked the bottom half of the rudder. Ordered a replacement and Macgregor sent the wrong one (too fat, must have been newer). Wouldn't take it back, so I gave it to a friend with a newer V-222 after modifying his ONE-PIECE rudder into a swing-up style. One piece, now THERE'S some fun, trying to put the pintles into the gudgeons while afloat and bobbing around! As for my cracked half-rudder, I drilled a hole nearly through from front to back, loaded with epoxy, and put in a super-long screw. This has held for over 20 years, with minor touchup of the cracked area, more for cosmetics than strength.
As for my personal modification to keep the rudder down, I designed (trial and error) and built a sort-of chain binder -- a cam-over device with handle that tensions a 1/4" nylon hard braid line which is knotted through a hole I drilled near the lower front corner of the rudder. In the up position, the line is cleated to the tiller (installed a small cleat there). Uncleating the line and giving the rudder a push down usually swings it almost all the way into position. Pulling on the line, which runs upward along the front edge of the rudder, finishes getting it into position. The line has a knot in it, which is gripped by a "V" in my tensioning device. Swing up that handle, and the line is really tight, yet the nylon line will stretch enough to release the rudder if I hit something or the bottom -- and I have proven that it does work.
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Re: I hate the rudder

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I have a M 25 and have rudder problems. I saw your post about pvc bungi fix. Can you send me a photo?
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Re: I hate the rudder

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Blainehyde

I assume you are referring to sailorman6309. He/she has not been active since 2010. Don’t expect a reply. :?
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Re: I hate the rudder

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Someone mentioned putting a bolt in to hold down the rudder, with the problem being that if you hit something it can cause damage. These delrin sheer pins are made for that reason, they break cleanly under a certain load. https://store.ruddercraft.com/index.php ... uct_id=298
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Re: I hate the rudder

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kd7jz wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:23 pm Someone mentioned putting a bolt in to hold down the rudder, with the problem being that if you hit something it can cause damage. These delrin sheer pins are made for that reason, they break cleanly under a certain load. https://store.ruddercraft.com/index.php ... uct_id=298
Wooden dowl,s will do the same thing cheaper

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Re: I hate the rudder

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Howdy,
Do the wooden dowels swell up and become difficult to remove?
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Re: I hate the rudder

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The 'traditional' cheap solution for break-away bolts is the plastic bolts that are available for mounting household toilets.
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