Enough talk about small rigs, what's the biggest tow rig?

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Frank C

Post by Frank C »

Jeff S wrote:I think Petes truck wins on wheelbase, overall length and cargo volume. I think Frank C has a pretty big truck also and someone else has a big GM truck with the Duramax as well. The 350/3500 will beat mine with towing capacity.

Jeff S
Thanks Jeff, but I don't hve anything close to your Cummins, so I didn't bother post this thread. My Sierra 1500 has QSteer and 4WD, but it's just a baby. Except they don't offer it for my shorter wheelbase, I really wanted to get that Duramax/Allison team. I'd have posted those specs! IIRC, the HP and torque might even exceed yours! Meanwhile, at $2.50/gallon, I putt along here in CA at close to two-bits per mile!

:D on the outside,
:cry: on the inside!
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Yes, I do love my '05, Chevy D/A, Ext.cab 8' bed 4X4! Just turned 6 mo's old and 11K on the odometer. I must admit I'd love the quadra-steer option for tight turn manuevers. My driveway which is over 100 Yds., long twisted and very narrow is a bit of a chore to back down. The entire length is on a rather steep incline....just like most launch ramps.....so you get the picture. On top of that, there are several 2'X2' masonry lightposts that are hazardous.

I always need a spotter, and once when the admiral was busy, did it solo, I thought I cleared one....nope, it reached out and bit me....ouch!!! :(

If I had my way, I'd tow it behind a 42' class'A' Diesel pusher Motorhome, but uhhh, cash flow prevents that! :D As does the length limit law of most states! :P

I still use my old '86 F-250, Turbo-Diesel, Standard cab, which is as adept at towing over hill and dale like a breeze also....but the extra interior space makes all the hassles worth it in the Chevy.

Bigger is better in many ways for safety's sake, but all things being equal, if your vehicle is up to the task spec. wise, and you are happy with it's performance, that's what really matters!

You'd think a Ford Crown Victoria would be up to the task, but even though they make a hitch for it, my specs tell me I cannot tow with Mac's specs! Then of course the Ford Escort, and my Suzuki Samurai, are out of the picture also. Two, out of the five, in my stable isn't bad though! :)
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Tom,
I do love my QuadraSteer. I like to turn it off when towing cause it messes up my traditional logic for backing & maneuvering the boat. But if I forget to re-engage it once the trailer is parked, it makes a huge, startling difference in wheeling around parking lots, or making U-turns. I think QSteer is considered too light-duty to handle the Duramax torque.

I wanted the Ext-Cab with the short bed - that feature set was not offered for the 2003 Duramax, so I got a gas-engined 1500 with QSteer. Guess they'll offer that hybrid, rolling power station pretty soon ...

mebeee I need to go back down there & ask for an "Employee Discount" :!:

:D :D
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The Quadrasteer is a pretty cool technology. There is no reason they couldn't beef it up to accept the DMax other than cost and demand.

I just got done with a 1500 total mile trip pulling the Mac. The Dodge did wonderfully. I averaged 13.9 mpg which is about 1 mpg worse than the last trip which was due to the hills in SC and Georgia and the fact that the last trip was my first time towing with the new truck so I kept my speed down for the first 500 miles per the manual. This trip was 65-70 on the highways. When a semi passes quicky you can feel the suction toward it initially then the push away but finger pressure can control the whole rig. Sway was minimal. The truck would pass easily in 6th gear. Still didn't need first gear to start- although I used it a few times starting on a hill. I think all of the new full sized trucks would make excellent tow vehicles, perhaps overkill- but overkill in a good way. The difference in braking from my 2005 Dodge 4wheel anti lock disks and my old 1993 F-150 (even with new brakes) is like night and day. (The flip out power tow mirrors are also handy-similar to Ford's pop out mirrors- simple but effective)

The bed is completely loaded with gear to the level of the bed rail with luggage and boat stuff (extra wheel, tools, etc.). The 3 kids ride in back with a portable DVD player in the center. I have to stop having kids because I am out of room in this rig! I'd have to get a Suburban and lose the bed!

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Very nice looking rig, Jeff.
And, a blue boat would be Sooo wrong! :D
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Jeff S, I think we're very close to the same setup with my Dodge Cummins being a 2003.

2003 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab SLT SWB (140.5" WB) 4x4 (SRW), 48RE auto tranny.

5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel- Inline 6- 305hp(2900rpm)/555 ft-lbs(1600rpm) (Stock with no catalytic converter)

NOW, 425hp/900ftlbs using a 100hp pressure box, 4" exhaust with Nelson tractor trailer muffler, and AFE intake. My little Mac19 doesn't even feel like it is back there when towing. 0-60mph times are estimated to around 6-6.5 secs empty/not towing when launching in 4WD and the turbo lit up.

Future mods when warranty expires: injectors, pusher pump, turbo, tranny rebuild, and etc. to approach 600hp and 1500ftlbs torque. Turbodiesel trucks are the latest hotrodding fad with some of them routinely running 12 sec 1/4 miles times and delivering good streetability. (Just IMHO, I believe the Cummins is the best one out there for this type of crazy power with its way overbuilt long block design. :) )

-Chris
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Post by RandyMoon »

Mark, knock it off with those graphics!!!! You are going to bring the board to its knees again. :D
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Post by Jeff S »

cbhinkel wrote:Jeff S, I think we're very close to the same setup with my Dodge Cummins being a 2003.

2003 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab SLT SWB (140.5" WB) 4x4 (SRW), 48RE auto tranny.

5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel- Inline 6- 305hp(2900rpm)/555 ft-lbs(1600rpm) (Stock with no catalytic converter)

NOW, 425hp/900ftlbs using a 100hp pressure box, 4" exhaust with Nelson tractor trailer muffler, and AFE intake. My little Mac19 doesn't even feel like it is back there when towing. 0-60mph times are estimated to around 6-6.5 secs empty/not towing when launching in 4WD and the turbo lit up.

Future mods when warranty expires: injectors, pusher pump, turbo, tranny rebuild, and etc. to approach 600hp and 1500ftlbs torque. Turbodiesel trucks are the latest hotrodding fad with some of them routinely running 12 sec 1/4 miles times and delivering good streetability. (Just IMHO, I believe the Cummins is the best one out there for this type of crazy power with its way overbuilt long block design. :) )

-Chris
Wow, that is a lot of power. I know the Cummins is capable of quite a bit.

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Post by Billy »

OK, couldn't resist. I've got plenty of horsepower, just not that much torque or wheelbase :D . . . Besides a Taurus can pull a Mac, right? Imageimg][/img]

FWIW, this is for real (no photoshop, no jackstands). I actually use my F-250 4WD V10 for hauling the Mac--more cargo area. We just did this for fun on a past slow Saturday.
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