Imagine A Powersailor design unconstrained by cost

[Highlander]

Yep & restricted to day light hr,s even with a police escort !

J

[Highlander]

how does a fella post pics on here?
want to pull pics out of a file and post them.
any help?

I,m now using TinyPic which photo bucket owns go figure ?

J

[whgoffrn]

There's a couple trailerable sailboats that can and have crossed oceans....hobie 33s and corsair f27... I guess it also depends what u consider trailerable..... Im HIGHLY considering a catalac 8m which is less than 14' wide and putting it on a slightly modified flat bed trailer staged in cheap storage 1 mile from the Indian river ... the mast isn't difficult to get up on one with the pole ...so I guess if you can get a wide permit and only travel in 1 state even a catalac fits the bill .....i think beam is the most limiting factor to be able to travel long distances

[sailboatmike]

Keep a look out for a Noelex 30, they are trailable (well sort of given wide load permits and only daylight travel) and are a gun sailing vessel, very quick.

That being said normally the few that would be classed as ocean going trailables have deep displacement hulls and huge ballast to displacement ratios thus they are not power sailors, maybe motor sailors, I would think to be classed as a power sailor you would need to be able to get up on the plane under power not dig a deep hole for the transom to fall into once you try and go faster than hull speed

[Highlander]

How,s this for U looks a lot like the new mac22 !
http://w1da.com/technical-specifications/4590818290

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAlTYSuUUxU

nice trailer sailor racer

J

[dlandersson]

Very interesting

How,s this for U looks a lot like the new mac22 !
http://w1da.com/technical-specifications/4590818290

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAlTYSuUUxU

nice trailer sailor racer

J

[DaveC426913]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAlTYSuUUxU

At 0:54, he calls this a "one design". I thought that term was applicable to races (as in: all boats are the same design) and would make no sense applied to individual boats.

Or does he simply mean "there is only a single configuration of this boat available"?

[Highlander]

why not read the data link I posted ? , can,t remember right now but now that u brought that up I,ll have to read it again , I,m thinkin one design meaning one designed Model "like a or " no variation in hull or interior design u get what u see just like in a Mac !
nice boat price starts at 180.000 UK Pounds = Approx $350.000 us dollars give or take a few $$$, u can buy a lot of Macs for that ! & not sure it has the stand up head room in the cabin like our Mac,s

J

[sailboatmike]

In my experience design generally is used in racing circles to describe a boat that only races against its own class and not in mixed fleet, the rules in one design are generally very tight and require that sails etc. only come certain companies, its just another way the builder can keep his hand in your pocket. The Laser dinghy is a typical example of "One Design", you can but exactly the same part not built by the original manufacturer but then you are outside the class rules and can't race in the class, of course the builder charges 3 times the amount you can get the None OEM part for because they wrote the rules and the rules say you have to use genuine parts.

In my humble opinion this is one of the bad things about competitive sailing and one of the reasons the costs are so high.

So if they only sell 10 boats scattered around the world how do you have a one design fleet to race against??

[DaveC426913]

Define "trailerable".

The weight of a 30+ foot boat would put it above standard towing vehicles.

But more concerning is the beam. Macs have a beam of 7' 10" for good reason. 8' is the maximum legal width of a trailer before horrible things happen to your rights.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of horror though. Permit? Log a Flight Plan before leaving the tarmack?

[Wayne nicol]

Dave, i know for the build that i am embarking on ( LOA 33') it is anticipated to be less than 10 000 lbs, plus a few for the trailer, and a few more maybe for water, fuel , personals etc. its still easily within the legal capacity of a full sized pick up- say a F350, and if i was really concerned i would either get a used F450 or build a gooseneck trailer - that would yield much higher load capacity.
as for beam, where i am 8'6" is std and to tow up to 10'wide you simply obtain an over the counter annual permit. no tests or inspections.
BTW, i think 8.6" is std. right across Canada, and i know in pretty much most states down south, although some are 8'.
the 10' permit works more or less the same, except you would need one for each state you were to travel in, so for a long road trip, that could be a hassle, but for just operation around home- should be easy.

i think Rogers 7'9" was so that they could fit two boats in a 40' container.

i know Oz has an 8' max and its really difficult to get permits to tow wider than 8'.
i dont know what they do for lowbeds, as they are pretty common at 10' wide!!

but then i dont live in Oz, so not a problem for me , besides who wants to live in Oz, they cant play rugby anyway

[sailboatmike]

i dont live in Oz, so not a problem for me , besides who wants to live in Oz, they cant play rugby anyway

Rugby is game for neanderthals, eg, They play it in New South Wales and Queensland, AFL (Australian Football League) is the game in Australia.

Dimensions of a standard 40 foot container are

40 FT. STANDARD CONTAINER
Dimensions: Length Width
Overall 40' = 12192 mm 8' = 2438 mm
Internal 39' 5.25"= 12022 mm 7' 5.625" = 2352 mm

This is why the Mac has the beam she has, the boat was put in on a angle to allow it to fit the width not just driven straight in

[Wayne nicol]

yup, i believe they could load two macs bow to bow, in a 40 footer- but just what i read- never done it personally.
and thats what he did for his business model- which worked brilliantly.
but if one is not planning to ship it in a container, one would be unconstrained by these measurements.

[Jimmyt]

Totally unconstrained by cost... MITSEAAH

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/pendenni ... 85469.html

https://pendennis.com/yachts/mitseaah/

20+knots under power. She sails. Power launch nestled on deck. Sounds like some techy stuff going on below the waterline to switch from sailing to motoring, but what a boat.