Newbie rigging question

[Scruffered]

Bought a venture 23 and I've never sailed a cutter before but, my question is I've noticed there are 4 lines and two winches the after jib is pretty straight forward and rigs through blocks on top of the cabin the most forward jib I believe you can call the staysail has blocks beside the cabin that don't seem to line up well with said winch I understand there are rope clutches I can get but I was wondering how the hull was the previous owner able to utilize the two cleats behind the winches while handling two lines in trying to upload a photo but photo bucket is not cooperating so here is another link http://imgur.com/JbrS3bU
Thanks
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[grady]

Aft blocks appear to be for a standard jib. Cleats aft of the winches who knows why you would need two. Fwd block were probably a storm sail? A stay sail would have an additional head stay behind the fwd stay and utilize the same aft blocks. Unless it was tiny. I wold need to see more of the rigging and sails to determine what the previous owner was trying to do.

[Scruffered]

Yea there are two stays when the mast is up one goes to the bowsprit and the other just behind it

[Tomfoolery]

Bought a venture 23 and I've never sailed a cutter before but, my question is I've noticed there are 4 lines and two winches the after jib is pretty straight forward and rigs through blocks on top of the cabin the most forward jib I believe you can call the staysail has blocks beside the cabin that don't seem to line up well with said winch I understand there are rope clutches I can get but I was wondering how the hull was the previous owner able to utilize the two cleats behind the winches while handling two lines in trying to upload a photo but photo bucket is not cooperating so here is another link http://imgur.com/JbrS3bU
Thanks
Scruffered

I'm not clear on the question. The jib, as far as I know, uses the aft fairleads, and the staysail uses the outer, forward fairleads. Those fairleads are stand-up blocks, which can tilt and turn as required to subtend the angle of bend in the sheets. It looks from the photo that both have a straight shot to the winches, with two cleats behind them (looks like a breast or mid-ship mooring cleat next to the fairlead, which is a nice thing to have for docking).

One problem with cleats behind the winches, though, is that if you winch in a line and cleat it, you now have a sheet on the winch, so you can't use it for the other sheet. But to be honest, I never use my winches for the jib, and rarely for the genoa, which is a waaaay bigger sail than either of those headsails on your boat. Just come into the wind a little to take the load off the sheet if you can't pull it in by hand.

And yes, rope clutches are the way to go, IMO. For those small head sails, you can use cam cleats (with guides, so you don't lose the sheet) in front of the winches. Real rope clutches are very expensive, and overkill for that boat. IMO, at least.

[Scruffered]

So what you are saying is that I can throw cam cleats in front of the winch? or at least one per side to alleviate the problem just pull the smaller by hand through the cam and winch the other normally

[Tomfoolery]

You can put them both in line between the winch and the fairlead (side by side), and winch one at a time through its own camcleat. Depending on where the fairleads are on their tracks, there may be a slight bend in the line, but you can set the camcleats up with their own guides or fairleads.

[Highlander]

u could also use these on the tracts but they r not cheap


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