Boat almost ready for the loop

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Re: Boat almost ready for the loop

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Seapup wrote:
I need help with hooking up my garmin chart plotter to my standard horizon ais radio and my ray marine auto pilot
If you have the GX2200 take a look at this link. The 2200 is slightly different wire system than their other AIS radios since it uses its own GPS data.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-elec ... ookup.html

The last post is what I used for Garmin plotter to the GX2200, you only need to connect 2 wires.

GX2200 - Garmin

Gray - Violet
Green - Black
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The image above is from that post on the hull truth. I'm wondering have you wired it like this?

I thought the AIS data was only on the 34.8K baud line. I've had the AIS data wires connected to a serial port on my ship's computer that is running OpenCPN in order to see the AIS targets. I have since bought a Standard Horizon CPN700i so will need to connect the radio to it also but have the earlier Standard Horizon GX2100 that has to have GPS input, which I have. The 2100 has basically the same inputs/outputs as the 2200. If I can get the AIS off of both the AIS and the DSC lines that would simplify wiring some as I want AIS on both the computer and the chartplotter,

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The image above is from that post on the hull truth. I'm wondering have you wired it like this?
Hi Sumner, Yes, That is how I have it connected. The Gray wire sends both DSC & AIS. According to the manual it looks like you can have 2 separate items receiving AIS info, but I have not tried it. One on the gray wire and another on yellow.


Page 22 of the manual has the specific NMEA output sentences for each wire listed.
http://www.milltechmarine.com/customer_ ... 44N170.pdf
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Seapup wrote:
The image above is from that post on the hull truth. I'm wondering have you wired it like this?
Hi Sumner, Yes, That is how I have it connected. The Gray wire sends both DSC & AIS. According to the manual it looks like you can have 2 separate items receiving AIS info, but I have not tried it. One on the gray wire and another on yellow.


Page 22 of the manual has the specific NMEA output sentences for each wire listed.
http://www.milltechmarine.com/customer_ ... 44N170.pdf
You can acually have more than one listener on the output of NMEA0183.
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My garmin book says to use ONLY 22 awg wire. I cannot find anything smaller than 20 awg at defender or WM. Did you'll use 20 or 22 awg?
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Wow, your boat looks great. Start date is just around the corner for you. Regarding the electronic questions, don't be bashful about phoning up Garmin or Raymarine tech support for help. I've done that a couple of times and have gotten excellent information on how to get the various systems talking to each other. Assuming you still plan on starting out on the Gulf side, I doubt you'll move quickly enough to catch up with us. We're presently in Brunswich GA, and are expecting to reach Norfolk VA by April 19. Good luck with your final preparations. We wish you and Jill the very best on your great adventure.
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Do you have portable bilge pumps? How do you plan to deal with bilge water? Also, do you have solar panels to replenish the batteries? Your interior looks brilliant! Congratulations, and I hope your once-in-a-lifetime journey is the very best.

I'll be looking forward to your trip commentary or blog.
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grady wrote:
Seapup wrote:
The image above is from that post on the hull truth. I'm wondering have you wired it like this?
Hi Sumner, Yes, That is how I have it connected. The Gray wire sends both DSC & AIS. According to the manual it looks like you can have 2 separate items receiving AIS info, but I have not tried it. One on the gray wire and another on yellow.


Page 22 of the manual has the specific NMEA output sentences for each wire listed.
http://www.milltechmarine.com/customer_ ... 44N170.pdf
You can acually have more than one listener on the output of NMEA0183.
Thanks guys and I believe that I've read also that two listeners usually present no problem and sometimes you can get away with more.

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Richard I've used 20 gauge like above for this application with no problems...

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ancor--8- ... AnZP8P8HAQ

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Thanks to Sumner and all the others who have answered my questions. Chinook we have changed plans and will be leaving from Vero Beach on 2 Apr. We do hope to see you both again. Jill really enjoyed her time with Sandy the day we got together. Wasp18 we have no solar at this time, will use 1000 watt honda generator for now. We have a 1.5 gallon shop vac brand vacuum that is great for removing water and a bilge pump we can use if necessary. It takes a lot of water to operate the bilge pump, so we hope to never use it. Will post blog site next week. Herschel thanks for the offer and all of you have about convinced me to make a pair of stubbies to take along just in case. I have no problem being told "I told you so" happens a lot to hard headed people like me. :o
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We're presently in Brunswich GA, and are expecting to reach Norfolk VA by April 19.
If you pass through Norfolk that weekend the NATO Festival will be going on. The Parade is Saturday the 23. NATO members from all over the world come in for the International tattoo and Saturdays Parade. The parade goes down waterside drive right past the marina (and water taxi stop if you anchor or stay at the free landing in Portsmouth) The park is set up with demonstrations from all the NATO member countries. Its a fun & free event. We may anchor there for it, Kate likes the parade.
Will post blog site next week. Herschel thanks for the offer and all of you have about convinced me to make a pair of stubbies to take along just in case. I have no problem being told "I told you so" happens a lot to hard headed people like me. :o
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you have about convinced me to make a pair of stubbies to take along just in case
You are very gracious. I appreciate your tolerance for us well meaning old foggies! I had just last Sunday had to dock single handed with an off dock wind of 10-12 knots. Totally blew the first attempt crashing into the outer piling that separates the two adjacent finger piers. I had tried to come in too slow and the wind caught me. On the retry I came in with little more speed and willingness to hit "all back" at just the right time. Second time was the charm. Got in "OK", not necessarily "good". Haven't suffered much from too much control in my boating career; its usually the other way around, not having enough. Nonetheless, I do sincerely wish you two "God Speed" and "fair winds and following seas". It is that time of life. :)
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ris wrote:Herschel thanks for the offer and all of you have about convinced me to make a pair of stubbies to take along just in case. I have no problem being told "I told you so" happens a lot to hard headed people like me. :o
I think the real value in those stub rudders is during steady travel, where you hopefully can reduce the need for constant correction just to travel dead-ahead. Even with auto helm, as you'd be wearing it out just to go straight. IMO, at least. Docking is easier with rudders, but with the directed thrust of the OB through the steering, it's not a big deal, at least to me (but some CB is crucial). Push the stern where you want it to go, and pull the stern toward the dock if necessary (reverse). 8)

Maybe it's just my boat, but I have to constantly correct just to go straight with no rudders at less than hull speed. Fast is different, of course, with no problems.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I'd just cut up a couple of cutting boards, make some large diameter washers from the same stuff so they fit the brackets well, and if time doesn't allow, don't even bother fairing the leading and trailing edges. That's something you can do by hand in the cockpit on a rainy day if you felt so-inclined, using a cheap flat rasp.

Looking forward to your frequent trip reports. :wink: :D
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Love this forum!

I just purchased a new shop vac after reading how it's used for pumping out a bilge. I've been using portable pumps and they really need lots of water to work properly. I just bought an "ArmorAll" AA255 2.5 gallon shop vac for $38.79 on Amazon.
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wasp18 you have to be careful on those small vacs cause some do not suck up much. We tried 4 different ones at lowes and the depot and just took a chance on the Shop Vac brand from Amazon. Hopefully yours will really suck :D . My wife likes it cause it is so light. You need ear plugs with ours as it is loud but does a great job.
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ris, I had one more "lesson learned" I thought might be helpful to you. When my Admiral and I are the only ones aboard, and we cruise under power through relatively calm waters like rivers and channels in the ICW, we typically do that with no water in the ballast tank to help improve fuel economy. Of course, there was the one time when that did not work out so great. We were traveling north on the Gulf ICW near Anna Marie Island and came into Tampa Bay. The 20 plus knot winds from off shore were driving huge swells right up into the bay where the ICW crossed the bay. I didn't have my ballast tank filled, and we were tossed around like flotsam and jetsam. Had to turn back and seek a safer spot to wait out the weather. Since then, we watch the weather when transitioning from calmer waters to more open ones and fill the ballast tank as needed. I would imagine that taking the loop will be like that at times when emerging from sheltered waters into open waters exposed to the ocean, gulf or a great lake. Don't get caught with your "ballast" down! :wink:
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Wife finished dinghy seat cushion and storage for life jackets and pockets for stuff. There are 3 pockets front and back of seat bag. The life jackets go in the open bag under the seat and between the front and rear pockets.
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Started forming trawler mast today and hopefully finish tomorrow.
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