Trouble Raising the Main

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Re: Trouble Raising the Main

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Oh, okay, well I gues that answers his question - I guess the sail is supposed to go all the way to the top!
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BOAT wrote:Oh, okay, well I gues that answers his question - I guess the sail is supposed to go all the way to the top!
It acually should not go all the way to the top. It should be close but you need to pre set your luff tension with you halyard and then fine tune with the cunningham if you have one. If yo do not have a cunningham the halyard is the only control you have for the luff tension. If it goes all the way up you will have no way of setting it right.
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grady wrote:
BOAT wrote:Oh, okay, well I gues that answers his question - I guess the sail is supposed to go all the way to the top!
It acually should not go all the way to the top. It should be close but you need to pre set your luff tension with you halyard and then fine tune with the cunningham if you have one. If yo do not have a cunningham the halyard is the only control you have for the luff tension. If it goes all the way up you will have no way of setting it right.
Yes, that was an old problem we used to have back in the old days before the modern sail materials were invented. Back then almost all our boats had the boom on an adjustable slide so you could slide the goosneck down the slot and clamp it further down the mast. Back in the old days the goosneck often was mounted in the same sail track the sail was mounted to.

Modern boats do not usually have that because modern sails do not stretch like that - if you have a modern sail and it is stretched out that bad then it's time for a new sail.

I think JudyB HydeUSA H sails person might know the best way to fix that. She know a lot about sails.
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Yes Grady, but ten or twelve inches from the top is far from being correct.

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BOAT wrote:
grady wrote:
BOAT wrote:Oh, okay, well I gues that answers his question - I guess the sail is supposed to go all the way to the top!
It acually should not go all the way to the top. It should be close but you need to pre set your luff tension with you halyard and then fine tune with the cunningham if you have one. If yo do not have a cunningham the halyard is the only control you have for the luff tension. If it goes all the way up you will have no way of setting it right.
Yes, that was an old problem we used to have back in the old days before the modern sail materials were invented. Back then almost all our boats had the boom on an adjustable slide so you could slide the goosneck down the slot and clamp it further down the mast. Back in the old days the goosneck often was mounted in the same sail track the sail was mounted to.

Modern boats do not usually have that because modern sails do not stretch like that - if you have a modern sail and it is stretched out that bad then it's time for a new sail.

I think JudyB HydeUSA H sails person might know the best way to fix that. She know a lot about sails.
Your reply to my post makes no sense.
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Years ago some boats had a boom that was clamped into the mast in the sail track (groove, whatever). So if the sail went all the way to the top and it was still baggy you could pull down the boom and refasten it lower on the mast.
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BOAT wrote:Years ago some boats had a boom that was clamped into the mast in the sail track (groove, whatever). So if the sail went all the way to the top and it was still baggy you could pull down the boom and refasten it lower on the mast.
Yes I know that, but what does that have to do with the fact that the sail should not go all the way to the top? (Bottom out of the halyard block?
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If the sail were to go all the way to the top and were still baggy on a modern sailboat that would normally mean the sail is stretched out and shot - thus the need foe new sails.
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NiceAft wrote:Yes Grady, but ten or twelve inches from the top is far from being correct.

Ray
Yes ten to twelve from the top is an issue. Incorrect made sail, stuck slides, gooseneck installed wrong location, We could fill pages with reasons.

Back to original post, Did he ever get his sail issue figured out? My guess is probably just an old sail.
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I hate to admit it but I have occasionally crossed the main halyard under itself when attaching it to the headboard. This results in the halyard pinching itself against the mast when the sail is almost to the top and making it impossible to raise the main completely.

Just to keep things interesting, this is usually when I'm single-handing and raising the sails in a brisk breeze. :D
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Thanks, this might be my problem - I often single-hand. 8)
Be Free wrote:I hate to admit it but I have occasionally crossed the main halyard under itself when attaching it to the headboard. This results in the halyard pinching itself against the mast when the sail is almost to the top and making it impossible to raise the main completely.

Just to keep things interesting, this is usually when I'm single-handing and raising the sails in a brisk breeze. :D
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grady wrote:
NiceAft wrote:Yes Grady, but ten or twelve inches from the top is far from being correct.

Ray
Yes ten to twelve from the top is an issue. Incorrect made sail, stuck slides, gooseneck installed wrong location, We could fill pages with reasons.

Back to original post, Did he ever get his sail issue figured out? My guess is probably just an old sail.
And mine was the boom exerting too much pressure on the leech.

At this point we just wait until we see the post with the final working solution. Otherwise we might as well discuss how many angels we can fit on he head of a pin. When we come up with an answer, what difference does it make :D

OK Neo, talk to us. Inquiering minds want to know :)

The envelope please (drum roll) :D

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can fit three angels on the head of a pin.
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OK, I will. :P :wink:

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Angles or archangeles? Makes a difference. :)
BOAT wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can fit three angels on the head of a pin.
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