New owner...direction and info needed.
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81venture
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Although I didn't have a "stolen" boat I have bought "abandoned" boats many times
Here in NC they won't give you the owners name over the counter, but there is a form you can fill out and get the information...and I have done it before
Best of luck
Here in NC they won't give you the owners name over the counter, but there is a form you can fill out and get the information...and I have done it before
Best of luck
Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Hey New owner. I am new too. Looking at your pics, you may have a V 222. I have a 1978 V 222 and the mast and boom lengths vary between the Mac 22 and venture 22. So measure them and compare with specs on sailboatdata.com before you buy sails. She looks good and a great deal. Mine was growing moss on one side after being in one spot, on the trailer since 1986. Good luck with her.
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morrobaymac
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Papa J wrote:Hey New owner. I am new too. Looking at your pics, you may have a V 222. I have a 1978 V 222 and the mast and boom lengths vary between the Mac 22 and venture 22. So measure them and compare with specs on sailboatdata.com before you buy sails. She looks good and a great deal. Mine was growing moss on one side after being in one spot, on the trailer since 1986. Good luck with her.
Thanks. I've gotta mail a records request to the DMV tomorrow to try and get the title in my name. Otherwise, its a sweet little boat, no real damage anywhere aside from a very small hole on the top of the transom.
My mast measures 24' with the boom 2' from the step...I can't remember how long the boom is, but I'm thinking its a v222 as well.
While waiting around for the paperwork from the DMV, and a set of used sails coming from a member on here, I can't help but keep shopping for a more complete boat in case I can't title this one. The market is certainly in my favor right now anyway. Mine needs all new running rigging, blocks, a couple shrouds, and sails...for the cost of sails alone I can buy a boat that's already got em in this market. It sure would be nice if these things could run catalina sails though, those suckers are everywhere.
I've actually got my eye on a sub $1000 1984 Mac 25. Being three feet longer, with new(ish) standing rigging, a mainsheet traveler, sails, an outboard and even has paperwork to go with it, its pretty tempting to trade up early. Not to mention its dark blue instead of this awful baby blue color I've got now.
In the next couple days I just may be finding myself with two boats, trying to sell the v222 to a friend or something....
- dlandersson
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
When shopping, bear in mind that "white" is the fastest hull color. 
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morrobaymac
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
dlandersson wrote:When shopping, bear in mind that "white" is the fastest hull color.
Oh, I meant just the hull/deck stripes are dark blue, everything else is white. As nice as the the solid blue hulls looks to me, I can't get over thinking about how hot it must get in those boats, not to mention the maintenance to keep them looking nice. Something about having an ocean color boat doesn't make a lot of sence from a safety standpoint either. If I got into trouble and needed to be rescued, I'd want that hull as visable a possible.
Hmmm, I wonder how neon pink would look?
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
What did your bill of sale say?
If some sold you a boat they don't own, that would be fraud.
There is very bad karma here, and I wouldn't put a dime into a boat until I had a clear title in a title state, or a witnessed bill of sale otherwise.
If some sold you a boat they don't own, that would be fraud.
There is very bad karma here, and I wouldn't put a dime into a boat until I had a clear title in a title state, or a witnessed bill of sale otherwise.
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81venture
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
dlandersson wrote:When shopping, bear in mind that "white" is the fastest hull color.
Our VN23 was this Gawd-Awful Banana Yellow color when we first got it.
Was the first thing I did was paint it "Ocean Blue"
How they decided at the factory this beautiful boat would look good with a 1970 Brady Bunch color was a good idea I will never know
It was awful
dave
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Yellow and avocado were popular back then. Actually, I like the yellow venture. It worked on that boat because it actually had wood trim and interesting shapes.81venture wrote:dlandersson wrote:When shopping, bear in mind that "white" is the fastest hull color.
Our VN23 was this Gawd-Awful Banana Yellow color when we first got it.
Was the first thing I did was paint it "Ocean Blue"
How they decided at the factory this beautiful boat would look good with a 1970 Brady Bunch color was a good idea I will never know
It was awful
dave
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morrobaymac
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
RussMT wrote:Yellow and avocado were popular back then. Actually, I like the yellow venture. It worked on that boat because it actually had wood trim and interesting shapes.81venture wrote:dlandersson wrote:When shopping, bear in mind that "white" is the fastest hull color.
Our VN23 was this Gawd-Awful Banana Yellow color when we first got it.
Was the first thing I did was paint it "Ocean Blue"
How they decided at the factory this beautiful boat would look good with a 1970 Brady Bunch color was a good idea I will never know
It was awful
dave
I don't mind the yellow hull too much either, provided the deck is white and doesn't have matching yellow non skid. I think everyone can agree the pallet back then was pretty bad sometimes...and even worse when it came to the cars.
While I've got a few bucks in my pocket, I'm looking at buying running rigging while waiting for the title paperwork. Now, I know I can do it myself, but have no idea how. From the searches I've done, it seems downloading the "brochure" is the standard advise given although it is basically no help, and don't honestly see how its even recommended, especially to a new owner.
The problem I face is not wanting to just buy a spool of white line and make everything the same color. So I need basically six? different prices of rope in different colors, different lengths, and with different ends one them. Does anyone happen to know the lengths / end types?
Or should I just order a 'kit' from Cajun ropes or???
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81venture
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Buy a LONG length of cheap hardware store rope.
Use it to rig your boat one line at a time and take measurements. Don't cut the rope, just use it at each "point" for your running rigging and decide how long you need/want each one
Then order the colors and lengths according to those measurements.
Thats how I rigged mine...since I "sloop-rigged" a VN23 which is normally a cutter rig there was no "manual" to follow
I also didn't have a clue what I was doing but it came out fine
Used the same method when I made new stays for the new shorter mast before I actually cut and swagged the lines
It's not so hard...
Use it to rig your boat one line at a time and take measurements. Don't cut the rope, just use it at each "point" for your running rigging and decide how long you need/want each one
Then order the colors and lengths according to those measurements.
Thats how I rigged mine...since I "sloop-rigged" a VN23 which is normally a cutter rig there was no "manual" to follow
I also didn't have a clue what I was doing but it came out fine
Used the same method when I made new stays for the new shorter mast before I actually cut and swagged the lines
It's not so hard...
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
This is a very clever idea. You can't use nylon for actual rigging, but you can use it for staging. Put it all together with cheap junk that you can use later on for something else around the house. Then you have a blue print and can decide what colors make sense where. Then buy a good quality poly line.81venture wrote:Buy a LONG length of cheap hardware store rope.
Use it to rig your boat one line at a time and take measurements. Don't cut the rope, just use it at each "point" for your running rigging and decide how long you need/want each one
Then order the colors and lengths according to those measurements.
Thats how I rigged mine...since I "sloop-rigged" a VN23 which is normally a cutter rig there was no "manual" to follow
I also didn't have a clue what I was doing but it came out fine![]()
Used the same method when I made new stays for the new shorter mast before I actually cut and swagged the lines
It's not so hard...
Here is a good article
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/articles ... igging.asp
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81venture
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Thats a good article Russ
and also a good example of how someone like myself, with dyscalculia and spatial dysgraphia cant make heads nor tails of all them numbers
The scrap rope method was easiest for me, and then I used lengths of "real rope" for my actual rigging....in my case I actually used kite twine to get the lengths as it was $2 for 150 ft...
Either way the point is not to over complicate it....it's just a trailer sailor....you will be fine
dave
and also a good example of how someone like myself, with dyscalculia and spatial dysgraphia cant make heads nor tails of all them numbers
The scrap rope method was easiest for me, and then I used lengths of "real rope" for my actual rigging....in my case I actually used kite twine to get the lengths as it was $2 for 150 ft...
Either way the point is not to over complicate it....it's just a trailer sailor....you will be fine
dave
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
I saw that boat on Craig's List months ago...IIRC, the poster said it was a donation that was never registered. It was $200, but the "no sails" was a deal killer for me. I just paid $900 for a boat in good shape, a set each of worn sails and new ones, and good cushions. My main issue is that some of the wood backing for attachments low in the hull have rotted and need to be replaced.
You might keep an eye out for moored boats that your trailer can handle. The best deals seem to be people trying to get out from under a monthly bill for a boat they don't use. Then sell the V222 for what you paid and be ahead.
You might keep an eye out for moored boats that your trailer can handle. The best deals seem to be people trying to get out from under a monthly bill for a boat they don't use. Then sell the V222 for what you paid and be ahead.
Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
You may wanna cut a piece of marine plywood, get some longer stainless bolts, and reinforce that mast step. This will also help with deck flexing.
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Re: New owner...direction and info needed.
Morrobaymac. What a deal!! The tires alone cost $150.00 and it looks to be in great shape. Look up the Morro Bay Sailing (Yacht?) club. Real nice folks and they can give you some help and advice. Fair winds and full sails...Old salt.
