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Australian Trailer Tyres
- Berber Boy
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Australian Trailer Tyres
My
is 10 months old and the tyres supplied have done a little over 3000km. Already the inside tread is feathering on both wheels. I put on my unused 3rd tyre for my return home and the internal structure completely collapsed at 90kph on a shallow bend. No warning. Just collapsed!
The trailer handled it well fortunately.
I have had two tyre dealers in Queanbeyan and Bowral look at the tyres and they showed me how the tyres are domed and uneven in the tread. So two new tyres from a branded manufacturer later I am on the road again. Has anyone had similar problems?
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- davidbagnall
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
The best thing I ever did was to get rid of the original tyres and replace them with proper truck tyres. The boat tows sooooo much better than it it with the original ones!!!!
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ubi_est_via
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Hi,
The tyres supplied on the trailer are sub standard. Mine showed signs of delaminating 3 mths from new. Talked to a friend in the tyre business who said they are poor quality tyres that should be on nothing more than a 6x4 box trailer & not anything substantial. I replaced all 3 with light truck steel belted radials ($150 ea)
The tyres supplied on the trailer are sub standard. Mine showed signs of delaminating 3 mths from new. Talked to a friend in the tyre business who said they are poor quality tyres that should be on nothing more than a 6x4 box trailer & not anything substantial. I replaced all 3 with light truck steel belted radials ($150 ea)
- Berber Boy
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Thanks. I used Yokohama 818's and the improvement in stability and ride is dramatic to say the least. Did not get them for a $150 each though! BB
- trip01
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Had a blow out the same last month on OEM tyres.
This is the tyre that I seek. Not yet available in Australia. Same size, in 10 ply with 117 Load Index. OEMs are 2540lbs or 1150kgs (113 LI)
http://www.maxxis.com/Industrial/Traile ... adial.aspx
TL15713000 225/75R15 10 28.3 8.90 2,830lbs or 1280kgs (117 Load Index) 80 9/32 BSW
http://www.bobjane.com.au/load-speed-ratings.html
Anyone else found a high Load Index in other brands. Best that I have found are 112 LI. What are the Yokohama 818's Load Index
David, I am interested in your specs.
Kind Rgds
Dave
2008 26M alloy trailer
This is the tyre that I seek. Not yet available in Australia. Same size, in 10 ply with 117 Load Index. OEMs are 2540lbs or 1150kgs (113 LI)
http://www.maxxis.com/Industrial/Traile ... adial.aspx
TL15713000 225/75R15 10 28.3 8.90 2,830lbs or 1280kgs (117 Load Index) 80 9/32 BSW
http://www.bobjane.com.au/load-speed-ratings.html
Anyone else found a high Load Index in other brands. Best that I have found are 112 LI. What are the Yokohama 818's Load Index
David, I am interested in your specs.
Kind Rgds
Dave
2008 26M alloy trailer
- davidbagnall
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Hi Dave
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you but here is what I have
Bolex TIDE TR90 195R14C 8PR 105/1030 and I think this is the web link is this one http://www.bolextyre.net/en/product/det ... stype=1240
So far I have done about 1200K on them and are are still looking quite new. I go mine from Colman Tyres
Cheers
Dave
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you but here is what I have
Bolex TIDE TR90 195R14C 8PR 105/1030 and I think this is the web link is this one http://www.bolextyre.net/en/product/det ... stype=1240
So far I have done about 1200K on them and are are still looking quite new. I go mine from Colman Tyres
Cheers
Dave
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Some specs on tyres which are currently available in Aus... Can't get the 75D with suitable LI.
Firstly, this is the OEM tyre on my 2008 alloy trailer.
Brand Size LI Speed PR This is a Special Trailer tyre
China ? ST225/75D 15 113 (1150kg) Unknown 8 (diameter is 28.3")
Found
Brand Size LI Speed PR These are all Light Truck tyres
Pirelli Chrono 225/70R 15 112 (1120kg) S 170km 8 (diameter is 27.4")
Toyo 225/70R 15C 112/110 S 8
Yokahama RY818 225/70R 15 109 (1030kg) R 160km 8
Maxxis UE 168N 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Firestone CV4000 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Bridgestone R623 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Kind Rgds
Dave
Firstly, this is the OEM tyre on my 2008 alloy trailer.
Brand Size LI Speed PR This is a Special Trailer tyre
China ? ST225/75D 15 113 (1150kg) Unknown 8 (diameter is 28.3")
Found
Brand Size LI Speed PR These are all Light Truck tyres
Pirelli Chrono 225/70R 15 112 (1120kg) S 170km 8 (diameter is 27.4")
Toyo 225/70R 15C 112/110 S 8
Yokahama RY818 225/70R 15 109 (1030kg) R 160km 8
Maxxis UE 168N 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Firestone CV4000 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Bridgestone R623 225/70R 15 112 R 8
Kind Rgds
Dave
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Pirelli Chrono 225/70R 15 112/110 (1120kg) S 170km 8ply (diameter is 27.4")
Bought one to get us out of trouble. Using as spare....
220 Dlrs + 10 for Nitrogen (65psi)
Before next long haul tow,(Whitsunday's in retirement) (or maybe GSS again) will get another, put both on and use the best OEM tyre for the spare
Kind Rgds
Dave
Bought one to get us out of trouble. Using as spare....
220 Dlrs + 10 for Nitrogen (65psi)
Before next long haul tow,(Whitsunday's in retirement) (or maybe GSS again) will get another, put both on and use the best OEM tyre for the spare
Kind Rgds
Dave
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ubi_est_via
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
I purchased RD 225/70R15 112R A/T RV Roadston tyres from Beaurepaires for $140 ea. They fit the rim & clear the guards...Cheers, John
Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Any experience out there on 235/75/15 tyres?
ie 225/75/15 is stock on the aluminium trailer.
I am interested as the tyre is a 116 load rating versus the more common 110. A no name brand however . . from memory "roadstar"
edit: wrong size: stock is 225/75/15 and I am looking at 235/75/15
ie 225/75/15 is stock on the aluminium trailer.
I am interested as the tyre is a 116 load rating versus the more common 110. A no name brand however . . from memory "roadstar"
edit: wrong size: stock is 225/75/15 and I am looking at 235/75/15
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
There are two problems one is the original tyres are crap and you need to get a high rated LT tyre about 1250 kg load carrying cap, I would think you did well to get 3000 k's.
The second problem is that the boats tend to get overloaded and the axle bends in the middle which of course alters the camber especially on our roads here with big potholes and corrugations, even up the Newel and through central QLD the humps in the road are enormous.
When I bent the axle (back one side) I took the opportunity to fix the camber it was pretty much guesswork especially under the conditions ie under heavy machinery with jacks and trial and error but better to get someone to do it for you and perhaps strengthen the axle at the same time but after 20,000 k's the tyres looked like new before I replaced the whole lot and put two new axles under it.
The second problem is that the boats tend to get overloaded and the axle bends in the middle which of course alters the camber especially on our roads here with big potholes and corrugations, even up the Newel and through central QLD the humps in the road are enormous.
When I bent the axle (back one side) I took the opportunity to fix the camber it was pretty much guesswork especially under the conditions ie under heavy machinery with jacks and trial and error but better to get someone to do it for you and perhaps strengthen the axle at the same time but after 20,000 k's the tyres looked like new before I replaced the whole lot and put two new axles under it.
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
Not that hard to bend an axle back....some chain and a jack Id reckon....hardest part is figure where its bent and how to apply the force so as to not make a pretzel out of it....done it on hydraulic cylinders out of tilt trays 4-5 metres long....there's always someone who wants to bend them or fit them without a stop tube....hardest part then is how much will it spring back so you have to over bend it ever so slightly
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Pretty much Bartmacbartmac wrote:Not that hard to bend an axle back....some chain and a jack Id reckon....hardest part is figure where its bent and how to apply the force so as to not make a pretzel out of it....done it on hydraulic cylinders out of tilt trays 4-5 metres long....there's always someone who wants to bend them or fit them without a stop tube....hardest part then is how much will it spring back so you have to over bend it ever so slightly
There was plenty of heavy machinery around and a couple of 20 ton jacks but we first tried to drill a hole in the dugout wall and put some heavy steel bits in the holes, I said it wouldn't work and I was right unless the object was to remove a great slab of the wall
They are very very strong axles trust me and yes the springback was a big problem, it was incredible how far over it had to be bent considering we were only bending the last 6", it was so easy to bend by hitting the post in the rest stop I thought it would be easy, there was a press in town but even if it could be done it would have meant waiting at least three days.
The biggest problem was getting it all back together (to measure) and then dismantling time and time again, if you are going to travel in this country you need to be able to fix basic problems or have big pockets.
The young bloke went across to Alice along the oodnadatta track and blew a tyre at William Creek on his camper trailer (std ford 14") $250 later he had a tyre that would probably not pass roadworthy, He got to Alice with a broken spring hanger $1000 later for two new springs and fitting.
Met a bloke near Hilston NSW it cost him $2500 to get a distributor diagnosed and a new one fitted but he supplied the distributor from Melb to Onslow WA and then it cost him another $200 to get the compressor solenoid wire put back on so his aircond would work the whole old mazda van wouldn't have cost that.
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Re: Australian Trailer Tyres
very interesting...
Having two left hands and shallow pockets, I reckon I better not venture too far
Having two left hands and shallow pockets, I reckon I better not venture too far
