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Use a short tack line to attach the block head to the rudder and another one at the boat end, play with the length to keep it just out of the water if you like, but it cannot be too long otherwise you will not have enough lift, I would sill use stainless and plastic blocks however, get them from Bias or Whitworths or another good chandlery as they will still get a dunking, not sure if BCF have a good range of blocks they seem to only have commercial balustrading stuff when I have been there.
You will need 2 per rudder so 4 Remember I have an with rear seats and use only one block to reduce friction not to give any mechanical advantage.
2 single blocks give 2:1, 1 single one double give 3:1 and two doubles give 4:1 so workout how much the weight of pull you need and get the block arrangement to suit.
Use your bungie as the down haul line, and the block arrangement as the uphaul.
kadet wrote:Use a short tack line to attach the block head to the rudder and another one at the boat end, play with the length to keep it just out of the water if you like, but it cannot be too long otherwise you will not have enough lift, I would sill use stainless and plastic blocks however, get them from Bias or Whitworths or another good chandlery as they will still get a dunking, not sure if BCF have a good range of blocks they seem to only have commercial balustrading stuff when I have been there.
You will need 2 per rudder so 4 Remember I have an with rear seats and use only one block to reduce friction not to give any mechanical advantage.
2 single blocks give 2:1, 1 single one double give 3:1 and two doubles give 4:1 so workout how much the weight of pull you need and get the block arrangement to suit.
Use your bungie as the down haul line, and the block arrangement as the uphaul.
Thanks for clearing that up... I purchased totally SS pullies around $29 each so these are a lot cheaper option and now seeing your links here different to what I purchased. So we are printing out your pages and will head off to Whitworths on Saturday morning as now your photos make sense. So how do you think we would go attaching it through the hole on the rudder where the up rope ties in? (Photo on LHS) WIth the length of the rudder blade you can see why it makes it hard to pull it up from this position.
As I said use a small tack line. Feed the line through the original hole in the rudder like a lasso then use the tail of the lasso to tie to the head of the block with the becket. Just follow the diagram to run the lines.
Sounds like overkill to me 1 block should be ample (is for me) as it is for lifting the dagger board, with 1 block you don't need anything to help drop the rudder but whatever floats your boat.
My apologies I didn't read the preceding page and was only reffering to the uphaul, would question though whether a bungee is strong enough to hold the rudder hard down in all situations where it should be hard down ie turning but probably as good as the quick release which would also allow it to hang back but if it has been done and works I bow to that knowledge.
Note have never broke a rudder yet in many hours in plenty of awkward situations without either.
Kookasnook
Re the life jackets yes we have them and have the quick blow up ones too but rarely do I think of them until later, same as the harness, just never felt threatened enough but yes probably foolish, although have put them on in the dinghy quite a few times mind you staying afloat in the water is not as great a fear as something in there that bites chewing on me.
Kookasnook
Re the life jackets yes we have them and have the quick blow up ones too but rarely do I think of them until later, same as the harness, just never felt threatened enough but yes probably foolish, although have put them on in the dinghy quite a few times mind you staying afloat in the water is not as great a fear as something in there that bites chewing on me.
Yeah I agree the idea of what’s under my feet sends shudders through me just thinking about it. My husband has no fear of diving and the fish including sharks as he has been diving with them around the reefs in Fiji. He is a free diver but I notice he sometimes puts on his Evie. We step foot on any Island vessel of dubious quality and he has already checked out where the water barrel is and anything else that floats in case we need it. Very different to sailing our Mac and I must agree I feel very safe aboard our boat. The main use for our Evies so far has been the grandchildren and knowing that if they fall overboard they have been trained to pull their emergency cord. Everyone has asked me how I have stopped them pulling the rip cords while onboard... especially as we know boys are boys, but I have convinced them that their heads will blow up if they pull the cord on land and save them if they hit the water. Nothing like a little bit of fear to convince them. So far so good it has worked. We also use them for the sun safety and for the youngest ones we blow them up so they can swim over to the shore.
Will do the new rudder ropes bungee down and pulleys up over Christmas holidays and will soon find out how they perform with 7 days of sailing planned. Will report on outcome after then and also how I go trying to pull them up on my own. Anything would be better than hubbie hanging over the back trying to kick them up with his foot. I'm not that agile or brave or strong...
Kooka, here's a picture from my mod on this site, with two short heavy duty rubber bungees:
If you use any rubber product at all, do not use any lubricant on it except silicone. Even so, mine have failed from exposure after two seasons and I am rebuilding them, inside the stern, for higher forces on the rudders.
Although the sharks up the rivers right into freshwater (bull) worry me it's these blokes below and not so much even him it's the ones you can't see, can guarantee this little bloke would have a taste if you fell in judging by his speed to get to any splash and don't think a lifejacket would help except maybe to float whats left to bury?
Hi KookaSnook,
I'm Based at GIYC near Port Adelaide SA. Brand New M26 haven't broken the motor in yet. Looking forward to getting out on the ogin after I get back from project work in Perth this week.
Boblee wrote:Although the sharks up the rivers right into freshwater (bull) worry me it's these blokes below and not so much even him it's the ones you can't see, can guarantee this little bloke would have a taste if you fell in judging by his speed to get to any splash and don't think a lifejacket would help except maybe to float whats left to bury?
Haha... now you know why I prefer to stay on board any day... let hubbie dive overboard and replace keel ropes while in the water is enough for me. Although I have bought his a hand spear so he thinks he's diving back in Fiji... no crocs there oh and forgot to add a good life insurance policy helps
StokerJock wrote:Hi KookaSnook,
I'm Based at GIYC near Port Adelaide SA. Brand New M26 haven't broken the motor in yet. Looking forward to getting out on the ogin after I get back from project work in Perth this week.
Regards
SJ
Hi SJ a brand new M well won't you have some fun . We spend all our time adding mods to ours so it suits our lifestyle and weekend escapes. Just about to add the new bungee down ropes and pulleys and then next year will look at galley refit. Let us know how your maiden voyage goes.
Jock, You the sort of guy who catches Zeds in a rack, likes a brew in the morning, reddez on his Mystery bag, and brings back lots a rabbits when ya come back from up top on the grey funnel line Pusser?
Yes good times...our MacX is just about packed ready...fridge going....supplies etc etc etc for about 10-12 days living aboard from xmas onward...well actually with no family commitments from before Xmas...bliss!! no obligations or objectionable relatives to deal with....a box of library books,some red wine, good food,a tablet full of music,a hard drive of movies for at night but probably wont last that long.Find the rhythm of life is from sun up to sun down....early mornings canoeing using the Mac as the mothership and later when the wind picks up a bit of sailing and in the heat of the afternoon a bit of floating if the wind drops....thats the life
bartmac wrote:Yes good times...our MacX is just about packed ready...fridge going....supplies etc etc etc for about 10-12 days living aboard from xmas onward...well actually with no family commitments from before Xmas...bliss!! no obligations or objectionable relatives to deal with....a box of library books,some red wine, good food,a tablet full of music,a hard drive of movies for at night but probably wont last that long.Find the rhythm of life is from sun up to sun down....early mornings canoeing using the Mac as the mothership and later when the wind picks up a bit of sailing and in the heat of the afternoon a bit of floating if the wind drops....thats the life
"Here.. here we only will have boxing day to New Years Day but I need it. Everyone here has been back home on Fiji this year except me I have had to stay behind and hold the fort at work. Will visit Fiji early next year. The only think keeping me stress detoxed is KookaSnook. Here is photo on Ken dropping off the new jetty on our island Rabi and that's Vanua Levu Fiji's second biggest main island in the north of FIji. The place we call the REAL Fiji and this is the waterways we hope to be sailing through in years to come.
There's only one problem....at work dealing with some inconsiderate,lazy,stupid customers who will make life hull...BUT only today Thursday and Friday and then FREE until the 7th jan.........But wont even think about work for 17 days ...jah jah *******Funny it changes H E L L to hull.....rather relevant
Remember I have an 
with rear seats and use only one block to reduce friction not to give any mechanical advantage. 
now you know why I prefer to stay on board any day... let hubbie dive overboard and replace keel ropes while in the water is enough for me. Although I have bought his a hand spear so he thinks he's diving back in Fiji... no crocs there 
oh and forgot to add a good life insurance policy helps
Pusser?