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Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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Hello
At my 2011 :macm: works a Mercury 60 EFI bigfoot (2011) with a PROP 14/11.
With full ballast tank it gets max 4700rpm and max 12kn (2 people and complete rig mounted).

Can I improove speed and economics with an adequate prop? I guess that it makes no sense to have a 60hp and cannot get out the HP that will arrive over 5000rpm.

Thanks for telling me your experiences with the same boat and Mercury 60HP EFI bigfoot.

Greetings - kurz
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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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Your motor is way over propped for your boat. I looked up the Mercury Bigfoot 60 specs. Max RPMs is 6000 / 1.83 (gear ratio) = 3279 max prop RPMs.

Our Suzuki DF90 prop is nearly maxed out for our boat with mast down and empty; Max RPMs is 6300 / 12.59 (gear ratio) = 2432 max prop RPMs. Loaded with mast up it could use even less prop which is currently a Solas Amita 4 blade 13.75 x 14ish (repitched down from 15). In theory, if you add 1" pitch the three blade equivalent would be 13.75 x 15.

The 60 is trying to turn a 4% larger area prop 35% faster at max rpm. For our 90 to be able to turn your prop with your gear ratio that fast we would need to remove roughly 3.5+ pitch from our 3 blade equivalent; 3279-2432 = 847 / 250 RPM per inch pitch = 3.4 pitch + something to compensate larger area prop. So your prop on our 90 with your gear ratio would be close match on our 26X.

The M is more of a displacement haul and really benefits from a 4 blade tractor type prop, like we installed on our Honda 50 (per Erik).

You should use a smaller diameter, smaller pitch, 4 blade prop. The smallest Solas Amita 4 blade I found for you motor is a 13.25 x 13 (1413-133-13). You could have a prop guy remove up to 2” pitch. Likely still too much prop.

Keep in mind our Honda BF50 (2001) used a Solas Amita 4 blade 11.8 x 9 with a Max 6000 RPMs / 2.09 (gear ratio) = 2871 max prop RPMs. Your motor only has 16% more HP would actually be a close match with this prop using your “lower” ratio higher prop speed.

All math is approximate with engine specs / gear ratios and props (which apparently are an art form). Just my thoughts from our recent experimentation.

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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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Thank you for posting. I get 14 knots with my 50HP Mercury. :)
kurz wrote:Hello
At my 2011 :macm: works a Mercury 60 EFI bigfoot (2011) with a PROP 14/11.
With full ballast tank it gets max 4700rpm and max 12kn (2 people and complete rig mounted).

Can I improove speed and economics with an adequate prop? I guess that it makes no sense to have a 60hp and cannot get out the HP that will arrive over 5000rpm.

Thanks for telling me your experiences with the same boat and Mercury 60HP EFI bigfoot.

Greetings - kurz
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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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dlandersson wrote:Thank you for posting. I get 12 knots with my 50HP Mercury. :)
Can you tell what kind of prop and at which rpm?
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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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I have an 05 M and an 05 Mercury 50 HP EFI BF I run a 14x10.. My numbers are better than whats being posted and I haven't a clue why...
All Things being equal? This is entirely Mathematical.. Its been years, since I have run my boat WOT.. so I have Zero recent data..
What am I missing??
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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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1" of pitch = 200 rpm.


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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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Divecoz wrote:I have an 05 M and an 05 Mercury 50 HP EFI BF I run a 14x10.. My numbers are better than whats being posted and I haven't a clue why...
All Things being equal? This is entirely Mathematical.. Its been years, since I have run my boat WOT.. so I have Zero recent data..
What am I missing??
My guess would be the 4 kids and 2000 lbs. of gear in a boat that's being used as a camper?
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Re: Mercury 60hp EFI bigfoot 2011, PROP?

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kurz wrote:With full ballast tank it gets max 4700rpm and max 12kn (2 people and complete rig mounted).
What does it do with the ballast tank empty? My :macx: picks up a lot of speed when the tank is empty, or while it's emptying if I drain it by running at speed. With the smaller 3-blade prop on my BF50, I don't see a huge engine speed increase. A big prop like yours is probably a bit more sensitive to speed.

Having said all that, it sounds overpropped to me, but that's based on not much. :?
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