When Might The Next Mac Be Due Out?

[Catigale]

Eventually the molds wear out , then you either build new ones or redesign the boat...given production is reduced from the heyday, we should expect an cycle of even longer than the ...8 years

[arvid]

There are easy to make a much more usual & practical boat than the x & m and there should be a big market for a good enough boat . Maybe we should cooperate in making some prototypes / models of the perfect trailersailer and try to get some company in a cheap country like China produce it ... The forum and my fantasy are full of good ideas for a new boat and there are not so expensive or difficult to make some prototype models .... Maybe someone out there are skilled drawers and can set the new model on paper ? May there should be a own site on this forum for ideas for the new boat ?I was buying a used 26 x because it was cheap enough for my low income and i liked the dinette layout better than the M layout - and the M have very bad head space , the x has space for enlarging the head to the center of boat as i have done... But i miss a boat with space for a shower and a big & practical "kitchen" - it isnt necessary to use very much moore money & materials for making moore functional hulls & liners - its a question about thinking practical when making the molds & constructing the boat .... Im living by a big lake and near the sea too so im living a lot in my x and trailering it often and therefore i miss many practical ideas like in the Mac forum .... Other boats than the x wasnt actually for me because of that the x was the best trailersailer ever compared with other boats ....

[mastreb]

I think there should at least be a separate forum for pie-in-the-ideas. We get plenty of them and that way people with no interest need not feel compelled to see them.

[Crikey]

Whenever I buy anything these days, I try to buy north american (even if it stops at the Mason/Dixon line!)

I can see it now. Attention Wal Mart shoppers! A new shipment of blue Mac's on isle seven.....

[jschrade]

The fast white Macs would sell at Target!

Jim

[Divecoz]

The Markets are saturated as it is...
The Logistics are No Less Than Daunting..and "someone who likes to draw"...well he better be a Nautical Engineer...
Build it and Ship it from China?? Hasn't that been done enough?????
OK? So what would you change that would.... cost less? No One Is Breathing Down Rogers Neck..Not in this price range and there by... There is Today...NO competition.. Hunter and Catalina have tried with little to NO Success and One other ... All are in this size and all are trailer sailors.. None In This Price Range.. How many of those are selling even 500 boats a year. are they selling 500 boats a year combined? How many have as many dealerships as Roger has and how many would you have ..??
Without a Huge $$$$$ Initial Overhead Investment?? You cannot compete with Roger.. Outside suppliers? Can anyone get a better price? From resin to sails?
There goes your idea of a cheaper boat.. and now you want to Up Grade it? Your sitting at the Next Big Boat Show .. Right Next to a Macgregor.. But your $3000 to $10,000 or more... dollars .. For what a couple hundred dollars in better winches? Better sails? Better trailer? So there you sit with the wife and your trying to decide between a stock Mac..Fully Loaded for $30K Up-Graded for $35K orrrrrrrrrr the new guy on the block at best The Mac Up Grade and at least another $10K to the rolling out the door price..to that of The Up Graded Mac..
We have members right here .. pooping in a paper bag and storing in On Board... so they don't have to spend another $200 for a self-contained unit with a Pump out.. There has been to date about 3000 M's sold and we can only guess how many would not have been sold if the price for a first time sailor was another $5=15 Thousand Dollars..
On Edit:
I have a question for arvid... I see you sail an older X.. are you the original owner? Did you buy it used? Why did you buy it used? Were they no longer making the X? Or was it the savings that held your interest? Be Realistic here.. You have a choice of what you have in the driveway right now for what ever was the price you paid.. OR Buying what you think you'd like to have ( don't be silly with this..) Brand New for $50,000.00 which one would you "honestly" buy..

[dlandersson]

Ditto.

Whenever I buy anything these days, I try to buy north american (even if it stops at the Mason/Dixon line!)

I can see it now. Attention Wal Mart shoppers! A new shipment of blue Mac's on isle seven.....

[Divecoz]

Make It X's 3.....

Ditto.

Whenever I buy anything these days, I try to buy north american (even if it stops at the Mason/Dixon line!)

I can see it now. Attention Wal Mart shoppers! A new shipment of blue Mac's on isle seven.....

[Russ]

Mike at the factory has stated that the molds are in excellent shape and Roger is focused on building a new toy 70.
So no new Mac anytime soon. He did mention some color options. Black?

The design isn't bad as is. If I was Roger and found it time to create a new mold, I'd make something a little more contemporary looking. Square off the transom a bit with sharper lines, get rid of the black fake windows.

But if it aint broke why fix it? He sells every boat he can make. Of course if he moved the plant to Florida like Hunter did 30 years ago he could build more. The business model works well. Cheap boats easy to ship in containers.

I may be unusual, but I'd pay $10k more to have a boat with a dual axle trailer and some nicer woodwork inside. But who could blame someone for not messing with a formula that works.

[Divecoz]

Too Bad your not in Florida or Chicago-land.. My Brother or I, would be glad to add some nice wood and a dual Axel trailer for $10,000.00

I may be unusual, but I'd pay $10k more to have a boat with a dual axle trailer and some nicer woodwork inside. But who could blame someone for not messing with a formula that works.

[mikelinmon]

You guys are right about long time comming. Our M26 molds are still like new, waxes and good care will extend the mold life into the future. We are making a 70ft Mac. Consumes all of Roger's design time, now and into future. How about a Black special edition, available from your dealer (they don't know it yet but it is available to them). There is the roller furling main, etc. What else do you want. Me, I'd like a 35ft Mac powersailor. Don't think I'd like the gas bill; 300 hp needed to plane, $4.00 per gal and 1mpg. Almost $300 to power to backside of Catalina. Hmmm, maybe the 26 is big enough for me. Folks, it ain't comming. No new design powersailor for long long time.
Mike Inmon

[Divecoz]

Humm Nike... Isn't The Anthem.. The World Monohull Speed Record Holder ( Big Sister to The M) .... for numerous years.. Still in Rogers possession?

We are making a 70ft Mac. Consumes all of Roger's design time, now and into future. Mike Inmon

[mastreb]

You guys are right about long time comming. Our M26 molds are still like new, waxes and good care will extend the mold life into the future. We are making a 70ft Mac. Consumes all of Roger's design time, now and into future. How about a Black special edition, available from your dealer (they don't know it yet but it is available to them). There is the roller furling main, etc. What else do you want. Me, I'd like a 35ft Mac powersailor. Don't think I'd like the gas bill; 300 hp needed to plane, $4.00 per gal and 1mpg. Almost $300 to power to backside of Catalina. Hmmm, maybe the 26 is big enough for me. Folks, it ain't comming. No new design powersailor for long long time.
Mike Inmon

Carbon Fiber Mast! Preferably on a 3' high drop aluminum tabernacle. No changes to the boat necessary, just a 3' tabernacle that folds down forward, and the carbon fiber mast folds aft from there. Baby stays to the aft chain plates hold it in position when raised and once the tabernacle is secured with stays then the carbon mast raises using the standard ginpole from there. Mast rotates, tabernacle does not. Boom attaches to the bast of the mast. This eliminates the need to move the mast back and forth from the step to the pulpit. It would hang off the back another 4' but I'm fine with flying a red flag at the mast head permanently for trailering.

Or just a carbon fiber mast. I'm not picky.

[GaryMayo]

You guys are right about long time comming. Our M26 molds are still like new, waxes and good care will extend the mold life into the future. We are making a 70ft Mac. Consumes all of Roger's design time, now and into future. How about a Black special edition, available from your dealer (they don't know it yet but it is available to them). There is the roller furling main, etc. What else do you want. Me, I'd like a 35ft Mac powersailor. Don't think I'd like the gas bill; 300 hp needed to plane, $4.00 per gal and 1mpg. Almost $300 to power to backside of Catalina. Hmmm, maybe the 26 is big enough for me. Folks, it ain't comming. No new design powersailor for long long time.
Mike Inmon

Mike, ( Or anyone ) what do you know about the Aussie Mach 28' boat that looks like a stretched X? One for sale over the pond, for way too much money.

Any chance of MacGregor building one of these and offering it in the USA?

[pokerrick1]

I think Mike just said "NO"

Rick