Survey-MacGregor Hull stiffness

[Québec 1]

But its so much fun being righteous and concerned cause it requires Pablum for brains and as such goes well with a bottle of Scotch.
anonymous

[iredrider1177]

mines worked just fine in conditions i wasnt very comfortable in, so im good with it...if i was crossing the atlantic.....i would buy a plane ticket.

[Catigale]

Now this thread is back to whether the Mac Planes or not.....

KMac....i vote you give the OP one week from his post to revisit, and then just dump the whole thing...maybe leave a nice troll alert post after his OP and lock it up...

[Dnomyar]

Wow - some serious antogonism there - I'm a troll ??? I have 24 hours to reply ??

If anyone actually goes back to the referred to forum discussion, and other similar discussions on Macs - you will see I am a passionate defender of macs.
try http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/search ... id=1969057 for a start

This is a serious query, it has been answered very thoroughly ( thanks to the contributor who actually went out and measured their boat ), and I would have done the same thing if I still owned one. ( I was a very happy owner). I would also like to thank those who provided anecdotal accounts of using their hulls to attack wharves, to prove their solidarity, and the person who very rightly stated that Mac hull failures are non-existant. I also support the reasoning of those that pointed out the benefits of an optimally designed hull ( eg. towing weight ), and the very kind chap who provided measurements of the hull where the plug was removed.

For all those who took the antagonistic, "mac basher" defensive posture - why dont you go and boil your combined heads! God help any other serious researcher who dares to appoach the Great Mac God with aserious question. They are only a boat for gawds sake.

[Dnomyar]

Just for the record... here we are, well over 24 hours since the OP posted his "question" regarding the crap build of Mac boats, and he has yet to even visit the site, much less reply or join the discussion. (last visited: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:22 am)intent... they are pretty easy to spot.

.. and maybe you are man enough to apologise, someone without any provocation, makes such uncalled for and totally innacuate statements. Show me where I put any "#@#@" on Macs ?, show me where i have to log in every 24 hours ? Some of us have a life without having to build their egos with malicious posts.

[Québec 1]

Yep! obviously sailing season is over for a whole bunch of us ad we have nothing to do but post and this proves most of us are better sailors than posters and should be sailing more and posting less. But this kind of stuff gives up us unasked for and needless reasons to post boat porn


First day of the season in the water may 2010
Q1
p.s. My apologies to whom may have been hurt, but as we are no longer sailing we have begun double thinking..you know what I mean. To get double thinkers in a bind you have to put emotions aside and double think back. For example(having had experience in this) in this instance I would have continued making interesting posts every 3 or 4 days thereby destroying the popular trolling theory and started a new post on some more complicated sub system using terms which require google looking up. But then I have years of experience with this gang of Mackers(rimes with quackers)especially the crazy nuts in the back room, whom I enjoy sparring with.

Sparring is essentially relatively 'free-form' fighting, with enough rules, customs, or agreements to make injuries unlikely but not impossible.

[kmclemore]

.. and maybe you are man enough to apologise, someone without any provocation, makes such uncalled for and totally innacuate statements. Show me where I put any "#@#@" on Macs ?, show me where i have to log in every 24 hours ? Some of us have a life without having to build their egos with malicious posts.

Please note that I very specifically made a point of not calling you a troll...

(Note: I am NOT saying the present poster is a troll -- I suppose it's entirely possible he/she truly was a Mac owner

...but your actions did certainly fall into the annoying pattern we've seen here over and over and over again, and frankly we're all pretty tired of it - and moderators are particularly tired of it. Further, usually when someone posts a question they are interested enough check back pretty quickly to see if someone has answered their query... they don't usually wait 2 days.

Clearly in this case you were the rare exception of a first-time poster who posts a 'quality' issue without an intent to run down the Macs, and I apologise of you were offended.

[Catigale]

Raymond, Having met him, I can assure you he is more man than you will meet but a few times in your lifetime

I also apologise if I offended you in tone or tenor and thank you for your post.

[LOUIS B HOLUB]

Oh Well...it's an interesting thread, no matter if a "slight" (ACCEPTABLE & HONORABLE) misunderstanding occurred. No harm, no foul, no problem ! !

HERE's the DEAL: Moderators are always RIGHT...and I can hardly imagine the insights and grit they maintain in MANAGEMENT and ORDER of a buncha "old salts" that think they have the "best" boats in the world (which obviously, is a fact). We own our favorite boats...and fuss a little now and then (even which color is faster).

But, after all is said, and all dust settles, no matter what...MODERATORS are RIGHT. MODERATORs have "class" enough to admit when wrong, and "grit" enough to say it. And, I've learned, they know when to pull my neck chain when I'm a little unruly (which rarely happens in the Back Room).

Never be offended by a Moderator is 1st rule, 2nd rule is the same.

Comon' guys...we're just a buncha kids with pricey toys.

<< proven to be faster than the "M"

[c130king]

I think with Macgregors there are two absolute truths that we all just need to accept:

1) There are folks out there that will attack Mac's for a variety of reasons and many of those folks have no real knowledge of the Mac...those of us that utilize this fantastic forum shuold realize this and not let our blood pressure spike because of some percieved "dis" against the Mac. We love our boats and we love to discuss our boats. If somebody does try to throw a hand-grenade type post into our forum (and the OP is not one of them)...bring it on...we all love to extol the virtues of our boats.

2) The white hulled is faster than then a blue hulled and any ...under sail.



Have a nice day!

Cheers,
Jim
Sailing on König

[Don T]

Hello all,
Hmmm.......... assumptions.
I was enjoying the show, watching in silence as the thread slowly spiraled down.

[kmclemore]

Hello all,
Hmmm.......... assumptions.
I was enjoying the show, watching in silence as the thread slowly spiraled down.

How wise you must be. Perhaps you should volunteer as a moderator.

[John McDonough]

Perhaps you should volunteer as a moderator.

Volunteer. I heard that you get paid $90.00 an hour for you time on line and a free boat.

.. thanks for you time..

[iredrider1177]

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