Thanks,
Rick
rickbartholomew wrote:I'll check the torq tonight, and will experiment this weekend with our old 3-blade prop.
Thanks, all.
Rick
The function of the cupping on the trailing edges of the propeller is to provide more grip so that the prop gets a better bite on the water and have less slippage which translates into more forward thrust. Grinding the cupped edges merely defeats the purpose. I have a Solas Alcup 4 X 11.4 X 10.5, I had the pitch altered by a prop shop so it is not factory standard but it works well. I might wonder if perhaps the larger diameters are a contributing factor. With my 11.4 diameter I have more clearance between the prop edge and the anti-cavitation plate and so no noise. Perhaps with the larger diameters the singing noise is a result of the prop edge breaking the surface of the water just under the plate. I have looked back at the engine while at WOT and noticed that the anti-cavitation plate is just skimming over the water surface like a ski so there is not much room for clearance. Those 12 inch diameters are almost touching the plate so if there is any air rushing under the plate the tip of prop may be sucking some of it. Just another theory though, I could be wrong. Personally I don't think the Honda swings a large enough prop, I think they should have a larger clearance under the anti-cavitatuion plate to accommodate a 12 inch prop with at least a half inch clearance to spare.opie wrote:Dave is right about a 4 blade propeller (especially Solas) giving out strange sounds at about 2k rpm. (See this (LINK)
I experimented and ground off the cupped edges of the 4 blade and the noise almost disappeared. I will stick with 3 blade props, thank you. So I think you can be relieved to know it is not a Honda mechanical problem.
Terry wrote:The function of the cupping on the trailing edges of the propeller is to provide more grip so that the prop gets a better bite on the water and have less slippage which translates into more forward thrust. Grinding the cupped edges merely defeats the purpose. I have a Solas Alcup 4 X 11.4 X 10.5, I had the pitch altered by a prop shop so it is not factory standard but it works well. I might wonder if perhaps the larger diameters are a contributing factor. With my 11.4 diameter I have more clearance between the prop edge and the anti-cavitation plate and so no noise. Perhaps with the larger diameters the singing noise is a result of the prop edge breaking the surface of the water just under the plate. I have looked back at the engine while at WOT and noticed that the anti-cavitation plate is just skimming over the water surface like a ski so there is not much room for clearance. Those 12 inch diameters are almost touching the plate so if there is any air rushing under the plate the tip of prop may be sucking some of it. Just another theory though, I could be wrong. Personally I don't think the Honda swings a large enough prop, I think they should have a larger clearance under the anti-cavitatuion plate to accommodate a 12 inch prop with at least a half inch clearance to spare.opie wrote:Dave is right about a 4 blade propeller (especially Solas) giving out strange sounds at about 2k rpm. (See this (LINK)
I experimented and ground off the cupped edges of the 4 blade and the noise almost disappeared. I will stick with 3 blade props, thank you. So I think you can be relieved to know it is not a Honda mechanical problem.