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Excellent, *MUST READ* Article on Drowning...

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I'm placing this in the most popular forum thread so that all here will have the opportunity to read it. It is one of the best articles on *actual* drowning I've ever read, and I strongly encourage everyone on this forum to read and understand the *real* warning signs of drowning. Understanding this may someday save a life - and even perhaps one dear to you.

From: http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/
Drowning Doesn’t Look Like Drowning
by Mario on May 18, 2010

The new captain jumped from the cockpit, fully dressed, and sprinted through the water. A former lifeguard, he kept his eyes on his victim as he headed straight for the owners who were swimming between their anchored sportfisher and the beach. “I think he thinks you’re drowning,” the husband said to his wife. They had been splashing each other and she had screamed but now they were just standing, neck-deep on the sand bar. “We’re fine, what is he doing?” she asked, a little annoyed. “We’re fine!” the husband yelled, waving him off, but his captain kept swimming hard. ”Move!” he barked as he sprinted between the stunned owners. Directly behind them, not ten feet away, their nine-year-old daughter was drowning. Safely above the surface in the arms of the captain, she burst into tears, “Daddy!”

How did this captain know, from fifty feet away, what the father couldn’t recognize from just ten? Drowning is not the violent, splashing, call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television. If you spend time on or near the water (hint: that’s all of us) then you should make sure that you and your crew knows what to look for whenever people enter the water. Until she cried a tearful, “Daddy,” she hadn’t made a sound. As a former Coast Guard rescue swimmer, I wasn’t surprised at all by this story. Drowning is almost always a deceptively quiet event. The waving, splashing, and yelling that dramatic conditioning (television) prepares us to look for, is rarely seen in real life.

The Instinctive Drowning Response – so named by Francesco A. Pia, Ph.D., is what people do to avoid actual or perceived suffocation in the water. And it does not look like most people expect. There is very little splashing, no waving, and no yelling or calls for help of any kind. To get an idea of just how quiet and undramatic from the surface drowning can be, consider this: It is the number two cause of accidental death in children, age 15 and under (just behind vehicle accidents) – of the approximately 750 children who will drown next year, about 375 of them will do so within 25 yards of a parent or other adult. In ten percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch them do it, having no idea it is happening (source: CDC). Drowning does not look like drowning – Dr. Pia, in an article in the Coast Guard’s On Scene Magazine, described the instinctive drowning response like this:
  • 1. Except in rare circumstances, drowning people are physiologically unable to call out for help. The respiratory system was designed for breathing. Speech is the secondary or overlaid function. Breathing must be fulfilled, before speech occurs.

    2. Drowning people’s mouths alternately sink below and reappear above the surface of the water. The mouths of drowning people are not above the surface of the water long enough for them to exhale, inhale, and call out for help. When the drowning people’s mouths are above the surface, they exhale and inhale quickly as their mouths start to sink below the surface of the water.

    3. Drowning people cannot wave for help. Nature instinctively forces them to extend their arms laterally and press down on the water’s surface. Pressing down on the surface of the water, permits drowning people to leverage their bodies so they can lift their mouths out of the water to breathe.

    4. Throughout the Instinctive Drowning Response, drowning people cannot voluntarily control their arm movements. Physiologically, drowning people who are struggling on the surface of the water cannot stop drowning and perform voluntary movements such as waving for help, moving toward a rescuer, or reaching out for a piece of rescue equipment.

    5. From beginning to end of the Instinctive Drowning Response people’s bodies remain upright in the water, with no evidence of a supporting kick. Unless rescued by a trained lifeguard, these drowning people can only struggle on the surface of the water from 20 to 60 seconds before submersion occurs.
This doesn’t mean that a person that is yelling for help and thrashing isn’t in real trouble – they are experiencing aquatic distress. Not always present before the instinctive drowning response, aquatic distress doesn’t last long – but unlike true drowning, these victims can still assist in their own rescue. They can grab lifelines, throw rings, etc.

Look for these other signs of drowning when persons are in the water:
  • * Head low in the water, mouth at water level
    * Head tilted back with mouth open
    * Eyes glassy and empty, unable to focus
    * Eyes closed
    * Hair over forehead or eyes
    * Not using legs – Vertical
    * Hyperventilating or gasping
    * Trying to swim in a particular direction but not making headway
    * Trying to roll over on the back
    * Ladder climb, rarely out of the water.

So if a crew member falls overboard and every looks O.K. – don’t be too sure. Sometimes the most common indication that someone is drowning is that they don’t look like they’re drowning. They may just look like they are treading water and looking up at the deck. One way to be sure? Ask them: “Are you alright?” If they can answer at all – they probably are. If they return a blank stare – you may have less than 30 seconds to get to them. And parents: children playing in the water make noise. When they get quiet, you get to them and find out why.
Other great articles on boating safety:
http://mariovittone.com/topics/boating-safety/
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Re: Excellent, *MUST READ* Article on Drowning...

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Thanks Kev - I started out the day learning something useful...Ive already C&P and sent it to my sailing address book..

thanks again
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What was described, happend to me when I was about ten years old. My father was attentive enough to make the rescue. I was no more than a few feet away from my older sister (five years older than I), but she had no idea that I was in disstress. When I became a parent, I became very aware of my childrens location whenever they were in water. From time to time I still think of my incident.

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When my daughter was about 5 we were down in Key West, she and some others she had met were swimming back and forth accross the pool, about halfway back she started showing a number of the signs mentioned. I thought she was just getting tired so in I went and after supporting her in the water for a few moments she was able to finish the swim, with me standing close at hand of course. Looking back I'm glad that I reacted as I did.
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Re: Excellent, *MUST READ* Article on Drowning...

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Kevin,

How about putting this article in the "Features/Articles" area so it won't be lost among all the threads?

Tremendously valuable, life-support vital. Thanks for posting it!
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Thanks Kevin :!:

These are facts I didn't know, even though I've been messing around on boats and water all my life.
This may save a forum family member, grandchild, or friend.
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As a teen, (trained as a lifeguard) and growing up surfing on the north shore of Oahu, this is consistant with my experience. I have pulled 6-8 people out of the surf. As well, in my waning years, I have pulled 2 people out of the water at our local lake. Same behavior. This is very ACCURATE.
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Excellent Post, thanks for the information.

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Very good Article!
I work at a Major Water Park here in SW. Florida and this story fits to the tee of knowing the signs of drowning.
We usually have 40 guards and Leads on duty to cover the whole park, no part of the Park is blinded without a Guard. We can usually see any form of distress, Panic or one who maybe in trouble, and the responce it very fast.
This is a 5 star rated Park for safety and is not close to compare to a Ocean or Lake swim that a drowning can incure just withing eyesites of a person not knowing they are drowning.
I know this as I didn't know how to swim at a much younger age and there was a drop off in a pond and they had a life guard. Within seconds I couldn't get to the top and was panicing takeing in water, My hands were never above water as they were low trying to get my head above water, it was a fellow swimmer next to me who new I was in trouble and helped.
If one sees a head above water gasping I consider it a potential drowning.
Another is Hypertherma, one often doesn't see it comeing and often after pulling one out of water sets in very fast due to air Temps.
Those who have taken CPR years ago should take a new class as the way to do it now is much diffrent than 10 years ago.
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kmclemore wrote:I'm placing this in the most popular forum thread so that all here will have the opportunity to read it. It is one of the best articles on *actual* drowning I've ever read, and I strongly encourage everyone on this forum to read and understand the *real* warning signs of drowning. Understanding this may someday save a life - and even perhaps one dear to you.

From: http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/
Drowning Doesn’t Look Like Drowning
by Mario on May 18, 2010

The new captain jumped from the cockpit, fully dressed, and sprinted through the water. A former lifeguard, he kept his eyes on his victim as he headed straight for the owners who were swimming between their anchored sportfisher and the beach. “I think he thinks you’re drowning,” the husband said to his wife. They had been splashing each other and she had screamed but now they were just standing, neck-deep on the sand bar. “We’re fine, what is he doing?” she asked, a little annoyed. “We’re fine!” the husband yelled, waving him off, but his captain kept swimming hard. ”Move!” he barked as he sprinted between the stunned owners. Directly behind them, not ten feet away, their nine-year-old daughter was drowning. Safely above the surface in the arms of the captain, she burst into tears, “Daddy!”

How did this captain know, from fifty feet away, what the father couldn’t recognize from just ten? Drowning is not the violent, splashing, call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television. If you spend time on or near the water (hint: that’s all of us) then you should make sure that you and your crew knows what to look for whenever people enter the water. Until she cried a tearful, “Daddy,” she hadn’t made a sound. As a former Coast Guard rescue swimmer, I wasn’t surprised at all by this story. Drowning is almost always a deceptively quiet event. The waving, splashing, and yelling that dramatic conditioning (television) prepares us to look for, is rarely seen in real life.

The Instinctive Drowning Response – so named by Francesco A. Pia, Ph.D., is what people do to avoid actual or perceived suffocation in the water. And it does not look like most people expect. There is very little splashing, no waving, and no yelling or calls for help of any kind. To get an idea of just how quiet and undramatic from the surface drowning can be, consider this: It is the number two cause of accidental death in children, age 15 and under (just behind vehicle accidents) – of the approximately 750 children who will drown next year, about 375 of them will do so within 25 yards of a parent or other adult. In ten percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch them do it, having no idea it is happening (source: CDC). Drowning does not look like drowning – Dr. Pia, in an article in the Coast Guard’s On Scene Magazine, described the instinctive drowning response like this:
  • 1. Except in rare circumstances, drowning people are physiologically unable to call out for help. The respiratory system was designed for breathing. Speech is the secondary or overlaid function. Breathing must be fulfilled, before speech occurs.

    2. Drowning people’s mouths alternately sink below and reappear above the surface of the water. The mouths of drowning people are not above the surface of the water long enough for them to exhale, inhale, and call out for help. When the drowning people’s mouths are above the surface, they exhale and inhale quickly as their mouths start to sink below the surface of the water.

    3. Drowning people cannot wave for help. Nature instinctively forces them to extend their arms laterally and press down on the water’s surface. Pressing down on the surface of the water, permits drowning people to leverage their bodies so they can lift their mouths out of the water to breathe.

    4. Throughout the Instinctive Drowning Response, drowning people cannot voluntarily control their arm movements. Physiologically, drowning people who are struggling on the surface of the water cannot stop drowning and perform voluntary movements such as waving for help, moving toward a rescuer, or reaching out for a piece of rescue equipment.

    5. From beginning to end of the Instinctive Drowning Response people’s bodies remain upright in the water, with no evidence of a supporting kick. Unless rescued by a trained lifeguard, these drowning people can only struggle on the surface of the water from 20 to 60 seconds before submersion occurs.
This doesn’t mean that a person that is yelling for help and thrashing isn’t in real trouble – they are experiencing aquatic distress. Not always present before the instinctive drowning response, aquatic distress doesn’t last long – but unlike true drowning, these victims can still assist in their own rescue. They can grab lifelines, throw rings, etc.

Look for these other signs of drowning when persons are in the water:
  • * Head low in the water, mouth at water level
    * Head tilted back with mouth open
    * Eyes glassy and empty, unable to focus
    * Eyes closed
    * Hair over forehead or eyes
    * Not using legs – Vertical
    * Hyperventilating or gasping
    * Trying to swim in a particular direction but not making headway
    * Trying to roll over on the back
    * Ladder climb, rarely out of the water.

So if a crew member falls overboard and every looks O.K. – don’t be too sure. Sometimes the most common indication that someone is drowning is that they don’t look like they’re drowning. They may just look like they are treading water and looking up at the deck. One way to be sure? Ask them: “Are you alright?” If they can answer at all – they probably are. If they return a blank stare – you may have less than 30 seconds to get to them. And parents: children playing in the water make noise. When they get quiet, you get to them and find out why.
Other great articles on boating safety:
http://mariovittone.com/topics/boating-safety/
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Thanks- I'm going to watch my kids even better now and any other swimmers in my sight ! You did a good deed by posting that.
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Outstanding post. I'm going to read it again and again.
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Curtis,

Maybe the Wizard said it best. You did a good deed by posting that

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I fell off while sailing a Hobie 14 in the winter without a wetsuit and went into freezing 45 degree water. Instant freezing of all parts of the body icluding breathing. I know there is a Polar Bear club that does this every year but they are expecting the cold.
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As a former lifeguard on FTL beach ( 50 years ago ), I still find
myself scanning a beach I am on. WTF I would do today remains
to be seen. Other former lifeguards have said the same.
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Scott & BK, since you guys didn't get a room on your own, I've moved your side-conversation over to the lounge. :wink:
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