Your comments on 150 Genoa

[Trouts Dream]

Sailing with the bumpers out is like going to the store with curlers in your hair. You can do it but .......

In your case its like going to the store in a convertable and stickshift driving through busy traffic while texting on your cell phone but you've still got your curlers in your hair.

[Catigale]

I resemble that last remark!!!

At least I still have enough hair for curlers, unlike Scott ...

[NiceAft]

I must be an anarchist. Rules are meant to be broken. Also, when it comes to fenders, I DON'T GIVE A DARN I remember that was a line in the A Team TV show. Pitty the fool who cares about what others think about their fenders. I think it was the show on February 29, 1986.

John, thank Matt's wife. She took all of the shots.


Ray

[Terry]

I have always found that I need both a Jib and genoa. Sometimes there just is not enough puff for a jib and the genoa really makes the boat pick up and take off thereby alieviating the frustration of doddling along with a jib. Combined with a 200 sq. ft. Musclehead and you are carrying 400 sq. ft of sail which really helps in light air. I also find that with the big musclehead I can get by with the jib on many occasions but nothing compares to the big genoa for the extra boost of power.
As for Rays' fenders, I do something similar. I have those cheap aluminum carabiners, two for each fender. I have one on the end of the fender line for fenders down position and another one right on the loop at the fender itself for fenders up position and just hook it on the lifeline. So it looks like my fenders are always out but really they are just hoisted or lowered depending on current duty they perform. I also installed a bar under the companionway traveller to hang them but they are usually too dirty and wet to hang there. There are two big bolts holding the ladder there and you can easily put a flat bar across those bolts to hang stuff from.
I guess I sail with curlers in my hair even though I am bald!

[bscott]

I think the choice of head sails depends on your summer sailing venue. If you are in a sea breeze situation with fairly consistent winds, then a 150 with luff tape is a good choice. However, if you sail fluky lakes with variable winds, the 110 KH C2000 works well because you can reef it fast without having to reposition your sheet leads and still maintain fairly good sail shape. I prefer the safety of the 110 over the light wind performance of the 150

My dock mate just installed a North 135 on his and it looks like an excellent sail. And since we are motor sailors, why suffer the light wind dulldrums and just hoist a 110 and run your OB at 800 rpm

Bob

[1st Sail]

I trailer from my house to the ramp which is 5 mins. away. So my jib sails are both hank ons.

I'm wondering if the time to hank on the jib is truely any different than dealing with a roller furler straped to the mast for transport. Would or could you attach the RF to the hound with a high quality snap or D shackle. Since all of us trailer sailors attached the forestay to the bow with some type of pin or lock nut bolt why not do the same at the hound.

I was thinking of adding a hound or eye strap at the mast head to clip the snap furl head to for transport.
How difficult is it to change head sails on a roller furler?

What do you consider the upper wind limit for the C2000?

Thanks again for the all the shared experience and comments.

Dave

[delevi]

The upper limit to the 150 genny is about 12 kts wind. Beyond that, the heel is excessive, assuming a close hauled course. You can take her to 15 kts on a close reach (not too close) or beam. No problem off the wind in smooth seas, but with waves on the stern, she'll want to round with that much sail up front. It's nice to be able to select the right size sail for the conditions.

On edit: Dave, since you already have the 110 and 70, the 150 would be a nice addition. If you are comfortable making a sail change on the go, stick with the hank-on.

Leon

[Terry]

I trailer from my house to the ramp which is 5 mins. away. So my jib sails are both hank ons.

I'm wondering if the time to hank on the jib is truely any different than dealing with a roller furler straped to the mast for transport. Would or could you attach the RF to the hound with a high quality snap or D shackle. Since all of us trailer sailors attached the forestay to the bow with some type of pin or lock nut bolt why not do the same at the hound.

I was thinking of adding a hound or eye strap at the mast head to clip the snap furl head to for transport.
How difficult is it to change head sails on a roller furler?

Dave

Some folks just have an extended piece of PVC tubing sticking over the bow to support the furler while trailering and that works well enough.
I started out with two hank-on headsails for the first few years and it was no big deal but I found tralering with a furler to be a big pain. I have a slip so it is not as ba as it could be but if I trailered, in hindsight I would not have a furler. The one I have is a Schaefer CF700 Snapfurler and it makes changing ouut the headsails relatively simple but it is a skookum furler for towing with. Furlers are pretty cool and convenient but there are trade offs when trailering.

[Catigale]

How difficult is it to change head sails on a roller furler?

To Dave ( I think)

This takes about 1/2 hour to change on the water, with the mast up.

[Highlander]

Na .
With two Harken 00 furlers it takes about 15sec's

J

[Rick Westlake]

Some folks just have an extended piece of PVC tubing sticking over the bow to support the furler while trailering and that works well enough.
I started out with two hank-on headsails for the first few years and it was no big deal but I found tralering with a furler to be a big pain. I have a slip so it is not as ba as it could be but if I trailered, in hindsight I would not have a furler. The one I have is a Schaefer CF700 Snapfurler and it makes changing ouut the headsails relatively simple but it is a skookum furler for towing with. Furlers are pretty cool and convenient but there are trade offs when trailering.

Beija-Flor (my Mac 19) came with hank-on jibs, and I was able to deal with them pretty well even though single-handing. Bossa Nova came with a CDI furler, and now I would rather deal with the furler trailering than deal with hank-on jibs sailing. However, Bossa Nova stays in mast-up trailer storage at my marina, and I don't take her "off the reservation" on her trailer for less than a several-night trip.

I'm one of the guys who built a PVC-tubing tray for my furler; a winter project. I also added a winch to my gin-pole (26X), so I can leave the sail furled and covered when I lower the mast. I would rather not deal with two furlers - unless one were a removable, "Code 0" furler that stows below when you aren't flying its sail.

Feeding the luff-tape of a jib into the Flexible Furler can indeed be a pain in the tush. I found that a pre-feeder helps A LOT.

[1st Sail]

Done, Ka-ching, ordered the C2000 today, they were in stock.

dxg68
Chief Steward
You will not regret adding a 70-80 jib and 3rd reef to your invendory. A great performing and low heel combo for winds 25-35mph. I don't have the wave action to deal with that you do so high winds are a lot of fun for Red Rock, Saylorville, and Upper Miss. River. I was amazed at how well the boat handled and the balance. 5-6.5mph.

Thanks to all for you feedback.