Rigging for assymetrical spinnaker

[Loefflerh]

thanks, Gary! The original part, no bending nec and cheaper then WM

[atzserv]

hans,

Glad i could help. I had the part number in an email from when I was looking at spinnaker mods.

Gary

[opie]

On my previous post I failed to catch on to any good vibes about the a.spinnaker. I confess I did very little sailing that first day in March. This week I spent two days getting to know and love my a.s. My asymmetrical spinnaker is a Doyle Offshore MPS model, and has a white leech of 24' 4", a red luff of 26' 2" and a foot of 17' 4".
I present the following two videos as a complete novice at using the a.s. and I made the videos to show anyone who has never used the a.s. that it can be done by even a goofball sailor. Those of you on this forum that are experienced will see lots of faults I am sure. I singlehand (even if the admiral is aboard) and had the a.s. for the 3 or 4 years I have had the boat, but was afraid to use it. Reading others comments here gave me the courage, especially the comment above that you do not need a pole with a a.s.

Raising the A.S. - video

Using the A.S. - video

[c130king]

Opie,

GREAT VIDEO! That may very well have been the straw that broke the camels back and convinced me to buy to one. I did get to witness the use of one on Bastonjock's boat (Glissando)...I think it was pretty much exactly like yours. But it was windier and there were a few difficulties that had me thinking "No Thanks". But in Matt's defense it was his very first time using it and there were probably the expected beginner's mistakes.

I am hoping I can get a chance to see one in person again before I finally pull the trigger.

But I can remember several days of just sitting on the boat in a light whispers that won't quite keep my 150 Genny filled and what you were doing would have been perfect.

Thanks again for the great videos...man I miss my boat.

Cheers,
Jim

[Stefan]

opie,
thanks for the video, I am yet to try my a-spinnaker, just got the spinnaker package and the Chute scoop from KH Marine.
I am no expert, but I believe I've read it here that the red is leech line, also, based on your numbers it's the longest line, so it makes sense.
I hope the gurus would clear this one for us to be absolutely sure.

[opie]

Stefan,

Good eye!!! I have the asymmetric sail on backwards. The red luff is definitely longer than the leech so my written description above was correct but I did not read it....haha

And the "Doyle" label is at the tack point BUT I have the sheet connected to the tack instead of the clew at the end of the leech side. UGH. How embarrassing.

I guess I have to erase those videos or else label them "stupid-spinnaker tricks."

I had such a good time. I guess I will have an even better time when I get the sail lines properly tied. I guess you can have a good sail experience and be dumb at the same time. Sorta like how Wylie Coyote can run off the cliff for a while without falling until he looks down and realizes his mistake.

And another big error, at least verbally, is that I call the gybing I was was doing, tacking. haha You can not be tacking with an a.s. I do not think. So, I was gybing of course. Another reason to erase the videos.

[beene]

Just got back from sailing with Leon and his asym setup using the WM whisker pole.

What a sweet setup!!

Once up, the kite was awesome. Never seen a Mac sail like that. About 160 DW, single reef on the main, we were in 15 g 25 winds SF bay.

Leon showed how easily it was to control the exact shape of the asym using the tack line, and 1 genny sheet on each side running to either winch.

Very nice indeed.

G

[opie]

I have been reading everything I can so the next time with the a.s. will be better.

Here is a good quote I found:

With a tight luff the MPS-spinnaker works as a terrific light wind genua and can be used as close to the wind as 50°-60°.
When bearing away the sheet is let out and at the same time the downhaul let out to give the MPS-spinnaker its optimum shape off the wind.
On the run the MPS-spinnaker will be in the wind shadow of the mainsail, so here the mainsail can be taken down or head up to the broad reach to fill the MPS-spinnaker. When you are on the run you can also replace the downhaul with a sheet and pull the MPS-spinnaker to windward free of the mainsail and use it as an ordinary spinnaker . quote from here

As mentioned by Beene, the tack line, or downhaul, can be very useful to change shape of sail... And my novice guess that an MPS (multi purpose spinnaker, the common abbreviation for the a.s.) could be used as a regular spinnaker totally out in front of the bow is confirmed in the quote above.

[Boblee]

The Spinnaker is the only sail I can use without stressing the wife unless we try reaching a bit too much, it's a great sail to just relax in reasonably light winds but can be a handfull if not quite familiar with it in 10-15 kt winds especially if using a main as well and trying to single hand.
By making a small bowsprit and having a separate higher hound it makes it a lot easier to keep off the furler we don't use a pole but do have blocks off the stern rails with the sheets going back to the winches which allows better flexibility.
Probably should make a video too this year when filling in time so that others here can pick on my mistakes and tell me how to rectify them,just never seems to be enough time or urgency to interrupt the relaxation though.