12V Cooler

[Sumner]

I put the EdgeStar...........



....in our 26S yesterday for a trial fit and thought I would post a picture for anyone that has an S or D and wonders where you might put one of these. I can't see fit wise an advantage to a 43 as it is as high and deep as the 63. If we stayed out for a max of just a few days then the added capacity of the 63 is probably not needed.

We think that we are really going to like this frig. I posted a page with more pictures and other info on the frig/freezer on our site..............

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... de-22.html

.......if anyone is interested.

c ya,

Sum

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[The Mutt]

You can easily fit an Engel 45 on your 26M, we have one, it's about an inch too tall to fit in the ice box of our 26X, we will be getting an Engel 35 soon, the 45 will be used in the 4WD, on really big trips when ther are only two of us we will take both, one on fridge, one on freeze for fish, ice cream, etc, before any flames about needing that degree of self sufficiency, we are in Australia with many, many destinations that you can travel for days without seeing another human let alone shop.

Also fit a deep cycle battery, we have 2 X 6Volt deep cycle batteries giving 225 amp hrs, they run our Engel on maximum freeze for 50 hours straight.

Glenn

[Russ]

I put the EdgeStar...........



....in our 26S yesterday for a trial fit and thought I would post a picture for anyone that has an S or D and wonders where you might put one of these. I can't see fit wise an advantage to a 43 as it is as high and deep as the 63. If we stayed out for a max of just a few days then the added capacity of the 63 is probably not needed.

We think that we are really going to like this frig. I posted a page with more pictures and other info on the frig/freezer on our site..............

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... de-22.html

.......if anyone is interested.

Looks great Sum. I'm sure with all that solar power you will do just fine.


--Russ

[DaveB]

I have been testing the 63 quart cooler in my Mac.X for 48 hrs. I put in a 2.5 gal. water container and 2-1 gal. jug water with 12-20oz water container.
Put it in FF (freeze) and in morning after 12 hrs got a 14 degree reading with the 20 oz bottles 3/4 frozzen. This I hooked up to AC to not draw down batteries.
I than pluged in the 12 volt plug with no chargeing and after 48 hrs there hasn't been a single digit drop in voltage.
Mon. night temps were 48 degrees and days 72 degrees, Tue. night 64 degrees and day 74 degrees inside of cabin.
I opened it a few times when I got home to give same effect as cruiseing.
Bottom line is I still have 3/4 frozzen 20 oz. water bottles and unit won't turn on as I set it for 38 degrees, few hrs ago it was at 38 degrees so will know more by Friday.
My Volts on twin 27 deepcycle batteries were 12.7 when I started two days ago and are now 12.8 volts.
I did have the sterio on during first day.
Bottom Line is I will have to wait until July to find out how it does in 90 degrees. I am useing it on a 4 day trip to Cayo Costa Mar.19 and will know more.
I think adding a 2.5 gal. frozzen jug of water will easy do a 5 day trip and still have the batteries up to 12.2 volts useing all elect. on board without any means of recharge.
Will be doing lot more testing but I am very satisfied with the Edgestar, it is very quiet,no vibration and can do without all those blocks of Ice.
I have a Mac.X and raised the table 3 inches so one has excess to cooler, the table is perfect height as I thought the stock table to be to low.
Dave

I put the EdgeStar...........



....in our 26S yesterday for a trial fit and thought I would post a picture for anyone that has an S or D and wonders where you might put one of these. I can't see fit wise an advantage to a 43 as it is as high and deep as the 63. If we stayed out for a max of just a few days then the added capacity of the 63 is probably not needed.

We think that we are really going to like this frig. I posted a page with more pictures and other info on the frig/freezer on our site..............

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... de-22.html

.......if anyone is interested.

c ya,

Sum

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[Hamin' X]

Got any pics of the install, Dave? Sounds like a good unit.

~Rich

[Sumner]

Dave thanks for the update. That is reassuring. I won't have any real life tests until May,

Sum

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[DaveB]

Rich,
I don't have any picture yet but will take the this weekend and post them.
I just cked the voltage and the batteries are still at 12.7 volts. I have 3 digital voltage meters and all say 12.7 volts after 72 hrs of running. Today only went to 60 degrees and this test is by no means good for our 90 day temps in Florida.
I raised the table by adding a 3 inch pvc to a 4 inch stainless bolt with washers and bought a 1 inch dowel from Home Depot and a 1 inch rubber boot in place of the aluminum support pole for table.
I tried to order the carpet for cabin floor and the don't make them anymore.
This I planed on putting under the cooler and and also take off the 4 rubber legs that support the cooler and adding a 1/8 rubber self stick pad on the steel runners. This will lower unit 1/4 inch with carpet and rubber and will secure the cooler to twin eye outlets on side at each handle. This will keep the cooler stationary up to a complete knock dow or 360 degree rool that just won't happen .
I plan on freezeing a 2-1/2 gal. water container and laying it flat on the bottom and there is still room for a 2 litter pepsi bottle to stay upright. you can also put in 4 -1 gal. water jugs and have plenty of room for food, also the 8 inch depth side tray can hold all your vegies and snacks for at least a 7 day cruise.
My feeling is that freezeing the 2-1/2 gal water will help keep the cooler from running at least 50% of the time in 92 degree temps. Also you don't have to reach so far down getting at things.
This is all trial and error but I have had ref. on board other boats I owned.
Dave

Got any pics of the install, Dave? Sounds like a good unit.

~Rich

[Nautek]

Dave

Some pictures will be great
I have a 50 Ltr Waeco that I have not used in the boat before but want to use it for a 2 week trip at the end of the month.
Trying to find somewhere suitable on an X to put is is the problem
So look forward to the pics

Allan

[March]

Hi, Allan.
I have a Waeco 50 and an 26 X as well. It sits under the starboard seat where the "regular icebox" is supposed to go. Take the fiberglass lining out and make some holes for ventilation. Take one of the fridge'd handles off (kept the other one in place to facilitate removal) The fridge will fit snugly in. You will notice that the fridge sits higher than the container. What I did was, I made a cover out of marine plywood that raises the cushion about 4 inches or so. I cut an "edge" for the cover out of rigid foam. It works pretty well. The seat at the table is higher, but not annoyingly so. When you want to access the fridge, remove the cushion, remove the plywood cover, open the fridge and enjoy a cold beer

[The Mutt]

March, could you post some pics, I was looking at doing something similar using out 45 litre Engel but was overruled, the 45 litre Engel is about an inch too high.

Glenn

[Sumner]

March, could you post some pics, I was looking at doing something similar using out 45 litre Engel but was overruled, the 45 litre Engel is about an inch too high.

Glenn

Over here they have the saying "sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission".

Now surely they have something similar over there ,

Sum

[The Mutt]

Some processes are by vote, when visual asthetics are involved inside I would never do anything without coming to an agreement with my wife, I would never think of doing any mods without discussing what I'm up to and why, that is why we have been together for 32 years. Asking for permission was never mentioned.

Glenn

[Sumner]

Some processes are by vote, when visual asthetics are involved inside I would never do anything without coming to an agreement with my wife, I would never think of doing any mods without discussing what I'm up to and why, that is why we have been together for 32 years. Asking for permission was never mentioned.

Glenn

I was only kidding , I run everything by Ruth also. 32 years is something to be proud of, I wouldn't change a thing,

Sum

[DaveB]

March,
I had considered the same thing you have done and it may very well work in your area but in SW Florida the Unit needs max. amout of air space and flow.
Water Temps here in summer is around 88 degrees but nights are usually 75 or less degrees.
Putting the unit in the Starboard area will need much more air move ment as Sea water will heat up the air at the interior hull space.
The Cooler will also add higher temps in that area and run much more.
Only other way is to have a raw water pump to cool the unit and this is best used in a Adler Barber built in cooler.
Under the Table works well for two people cruiseing as the cooler is well ventilated, easy to get to without takeing seat and board off and runs much more efficiant.

Dave

Hi, Allan.
I have a Waeco 50 and an 26 X as well. It sits under the starboard seat where the "regular icebox" is supposed to go. Take the fiberglass lining out and make some holes for ventilation. Take one of the fridge'd handles off (kept the other one in place to facilitate removal) The fridge will fit snugly in. You will notice that the fridge sits higher than the container. What I did was, I made a cover out of marine plywood that raises the cushion about 4 inches or so. I cut an "edge" for the cover out of rigid foam. It works pretty well. The seat at the table is higher, but not annoyingly so. When you want to access the fridge, remove the cushion, remove the plywood cover, open the fridge and enjoy a cold beer

[March]

Yeah, I know. I was thinking of dremmelling an additional hole in the wall of the starboard seat, so that the airflow will go right under the table, but there was no need for that. We sail on the local lakes and up Duluth, mostly. The Waeco pump seems to handle the local temperatures just fine.

The Waeco ad says that the unit is commonly use to freeze organs and blood in "extreme desert conditions." I would guess that the ambient air temperature would peak way over 100, under such conditions. Being located as it is, the air still flows into the bilge; it's not that the bilge is airtight and creates negative pressures or anything. The only problem, as far as I can tell (I ain't no engineer) is, the higher the ambient temperature, the harder the compressor will have to work, right? My guess is, the difference in temp between the area under the table and that under the seat cannot be higher than 5 degrees. Maybe ten. Yeah, the compressor will kick in a little more often, but the difference cannot be all that great. I don't like my beer frozen.

Come to think of it, the bilge area may be even cooler than the under-the-table area, because of the outer walls which are in direct contact with the water, at least during the daytime. At night, if the water is warmer than the air (I know that can happen sometimes)but again, the differences cannot be all that great.