Transom Reinforcements (I can't believe ...)

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Re: Transom Reinforcements (I can't believe ...)

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Please do let me know the results and your satisfaction, after installing 115 HP.
I also intend to do the same with my 26M. At present I am having FT50 Yamaha and I wanted to replace with 115 hp Yamaha.
Are you also using wedges ?

Could you please send me pictures of your engine's installation.

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Steve and others,
Here is the link to the motor I was bidding on:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 80091&rd=1
I then called the company, 1st outboard and asked what they had available. He started off cheap. He had my 115 and a 90 Evinrude. Mine is a 98 I believe. I am going to take a closer look at it today after school. I took a quick look at it yesterday and it looks marvelous. I can't wait to take it for a spin. If y'all are wondering the reserve for that motor I listed above is $4100 according to Mike the salesman that sold me my engine. The quality of the motor looked first rate yesterday. Now I just have to get everything together to put it all on. I have to go get a engine hoist, unless y'all want to come over and help lift. The one thing I am going to do it use the height adjustment of the outboard before I fully mount it. If you look at a normal engine mount the bottom bolt hole has a sliding adjustment. I am only going to drill for that hole at first. With this hole it places the top of the cavitation plate about 2" below the transom. From what I have read the cavitation plate should be even with the bottom of the transom. I will take it out for a test ride and see what it does at the various heights. Please don't think that I am not going to brace it. That I will do. I am just not going to drill for the top mounting hole till I get the engine at the right height first. I plan on doing a 5" c channel on the inside, forty bucks at the local metal factory, along with the spreader plate for the inside and outside of the transom. Billy thanks for the pictures. They are the ones I wanted. Steve give the outboard place a call. I am sure that if you buy from them you will be impressed with the quality of their final product. Have fun everyone, Vrooom Vroom , Tony
P.s. Shehzad. I don't plan on using the wedges. I noticed with the Nissan 50 that I had to gain more speed I would trim the bow high and it would speed up. The good thing is if I want to later on I can. I am going to get a big plate like Billy used and notch it for the top of the engine well like he did. Do you know how expensive aluminum is?
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If you install the wedge kit you'll save on fuel as they will allow you to cruise at a slower speed without the bow up in the air and the hull ploughing "pushing all kinds of water", Beene & I installed our 75hp F/S mercs with the cavitation plate 1" below the transome this is actually even with the bottom of the hull near the center just behind the dagger board , I got my eng from Iboats a 2007 10months old full warr for less than half price !!!

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Highlander,
I don't know how to question you but here goes. On my boat now I don't have the wedges. When I trim the motor up I am able to obtain increased speeds vice having the motor trimmed down. To me being able to obtain increased speeds would be an indication of increased efficiency?? I will take a look this weekend while I am motoring at the relationship between the water flow and the bottom of the transom. Hopefully they are even at the bottom. Sometims I float on air. Either way with the motor mount resting on the transom, going to the engine well, it, cavitation plate, is still just about two inches, measured, below the bottom of the transom. Float y'all soon. Going home now to take pictures and measurements of the new engine. Tony
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Hi Tony,

Will jump in only because I have the same experience as you, and it took me a bit to figure out why it was so different than Beene's and Highlander's. Sorry that this wedge discussion is a little off-topic.

Of course the perfect plane is neither bow-too-low nor bow-too-high, but skimming just right. I have a 50 HP, I always motor with the ballast in, plus I have installed a toilet and water/holding tank in the forward area. My ideal outboard trim is slightly up-and-out (no wedges), since I'm carrying some extra bow weight. For the guys with the heavy and powerful 75's, 90's, et al (probably motoring without ballast) - they have a tendency to ride with too much bow-up, which means that aft portion of the hull is plowing thru the water. They do better with the wedges by getting the boat sit back down on a flatter plane (still slightly bow up, however). That's the conclusion I've come to anyway :-) Hope that helps.

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Mr. Bob,
I greatly appreciate the info on how to look at their, now maybe my dilemma. I am bidding on a set of wedges on eBay right now. Please no-one outbid me. I have my max bid set near where you can just buy a set you are not going to save much. I am pricing a sheet of aluminum now to use for the reinforcement. I am taking it carefully to make sure that I do it right the first time. Image
That is the motor as it is sitting out of the crate. They did a good job of packaging it. I can't wait to have it bolted on. As you can see it is very clean. ImageFor those of you that have Evinrudes, do you think I should attach the negative cable to the bolt on the top right of the starter motor? I am assuming that I need to attach the positive cable to the bolt on top of the relay where the two red wires are attached? I hope you enjoy my labor, Tony
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Here's a link to some BEENE POWER !

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20 ... 010017.flv

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Tony,

I hope that by now, you would have finished up with your 115 hp engine.

Please let me know, what difference you are feeling.

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Highlander wrote:Here's a link to some BEENE POWER !

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20 ... 010017.flv

J
Highlander,

What is the power of the engine ?

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Tony - Im sure you can download an install guide off the web for this motor. You are scaring me a bit with your wiring comment - you dont want to guess at this stuff...get the docs and follow the instructions... :)
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Shehzad

Beene's is a 2005 Merc 75HP 4 carb , mine is a 2007 Merc 75HP fuel injected also I have a bigger eng. block 1731cc & more torq 8) :wink:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee20 ... 010072.jpg

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Kelly and Others,
Here is where I stand. I removed the older motor, which happens to be newer then the one I am putting on "Finally". My Pops said that he wanted to come down and help me install the new motor. He will be here tomorrow. We plan on installing it on Saturday. I have all the stuff necessary to have it mounted. Yes Kelly I did get a wiring manual and I know where everything goes. I am waiting on some aluminum to arrive today for the transom bracing. I also won the auction on eBay for the transom wedges. I will put those on also. The local Evinrude dealer has the trim cable coming in today supposedly. The first order of installation will be to hoist the motor and mount. Then I get to climb under the helm and bolt it in. Then run cables and wires. From there it should be cosmetic stuff to make everything look pretty. I hope to have the boat out on the water by the mid to late afternoon. Have fun and heres to making bigger waves. Tony
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Hey Everybody,
I have the engine mounted, with an exception. I bought some c channel to mount on the inside for the bottom bolts. I should have bought four inch instead of the five inch I bought. I am going to try to see if the five inch will fit inside the area it needs to go. The engine fired up the first time. I have the trim going up and down also. The fuse for one of the harnesses blew so we had to diagnose what was wrong with it. I am having one problem. The throttle for the Evinrude is backwards then my old Nissan. So the helm control needs to be 180 degrees off for the throttle. I am going to take a closer look at it tomorrow to see if we can get it right. I mounted the "new" to me M pod on the pedestal I built. It is bolted down in the same places the old X pedestal was along with the four previously screwed down table mounts. I think it is a lot stronger then the old pedestal. Hopefully I will not have to be using it much longer once I finish redoing my traveler assembly. I found out what year and model the engine is. I also found the correct serial number. Well thanks for all the help. I will be posting update pictures her shortly. Have fun, Tony
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Tony,
Sweet engine! The etec 115 is what I have been lusting after. Would love to hear about your performance with that bad boy. :)

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Leon and the Others,
Well I was "Finally" able to get the throttle linkage squared away. I took the boat for a little spin. With my Pops' gps we got to an indicated speed of 31.6 mph. That was with three adults on board and some stuff down below. I know I should have changed it to knots but why do I need something else causing a mess on the boat. The steering linkage on the boat is longer then what is on the Nissan. I will have to cut a new hole closer in to make me more then happy with this motor. At full throttle it is a lot quieter then the Nissan and it had more speed to boot. I am bidding on an oil tank now so that I don't have to hear the buzzer going off. I poured oil into the tank with my ratio bottle. Even though this is a rebuilt '95 it still exceeds my expectations. I think the company that I bought it from did a good job remanufacturing it. Well ya'll have a good day and happy speeding, Tony
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