I know, if you have to ask you cant afford it!
I have seen widly varying marina fees in the last 10 years, largly varied by the amount of service provided.
My last marina was a mud hole with small docks and about 2ft depth. No services at all. but a really neat place 2 minutes from our lot up north where we like to camp out. we paid $350cdn per year.
That said, the guys that owned the arina were good folks who would lend a hand, give advice, invite you out to theit island for partys etc.
Due to lower than usual water levels we have moved this year to a full service marina 8 miles away, great lounge room, repair service to engines, fiberglass, wood refinishing etc, showers and hydro (i'm excited i've never had an electrical hook up before). but all this at a price of $1800cdn
If i might ask, what do you all pay and what do you get for it???
Slip Fees
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Russ
- Admiral
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- Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
- Location: Bozeman, Montana "Luna Azul" 2008 M 70hp Suzi
Our slip at the lake is $725/year. No water or electric. There is a great store with beer/wine, groceries, clothing and boat supplies. A laundry, showers, cabin rentals and picnic areas on site. They have some shop services and a marine mechanic across the street. Fuel dock and ramp with pump out.
Not too far away is another marina that charges $800/year plus $350/year for electric and water. They have a store and restaurant/bar but we don't want to pay that much for electricity that we wouldn't really use.
These two marinas are in the middle of nowhere on a large quiet lake, so the services are appreciated. Next closest marina is 25 miles away and we never looked into their prices.
Back in New Jersey, we paid $2800/year for a slip in the bay. Had power (metered), water, cable TV and a pool. Bathrooms and showers. No store, however it was in town and had lots of stuff nearby. No ramp.
--Russ
Not too far away is another marina that charges $800/year plus $350/year for electric and water. They have a store and restaurant/bar but we don't want to pay that much for electricity that we wouldn't really use.
These two marinas are in the middle of nowhere on a large quiet lake, so the services are appreciated. Next closest marina is 25 miles away and we never looked into their prices.
Back in New Jersey, we paid $2800/year for a slip in the bay. Had power (metered), water, cable TV and a pool. Bathrooms and showers. No store, however it was in town and had lots of stuff nearby. No ramp.
--Russ
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tangentair
- Admiral
- Posts: 1234
- Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:59 am
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
- Location: Highland Park, IL ...07M...Merc 50 BF...Mila K
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RickJ
- First Officer
- Posts: 292
- Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:39 pm
- Sailboat: MacGregor 19
- Location: Isle of Wight, UK - '94 19 + Tohatsu MFS30
Probably like comparing apples to oranges, but on the Isle of Wight, UK, a serviced pontoon mooring* is around £2000/yr (~$4000) for a Mac-sized boat. However, this is the "home of British yachting", so there's a lot of demand. There are a few at around half that, but with no services, and drying out at low tide.
Swinging moorings are around £1000/yr, I'm paying £650 for mast-up dry parking for the summer only.
At the moment though I've got free use of a pontoon 'cos the harbour screwed up and the slipway* is currently unusable. 
(see my previous thread for gory details 
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Cheers, Rick
* translator:
English: pontoon, American: slip
English: slipway, American: ramp
Swinging moorings are around £1000/yr, I'm paying £650 for mast-up dry parking for the summer only.
At the moment though I've got free use of a pontoon 'cos the harbour screwed up and the slipway* is currently unusable. (see my previous thread for gory details ).Cheers, Rick
* translator:
English: pontoon, American: slip
English: slipway, American: ramp
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tangentair
- Admiral
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- Location: Highland Park, IL ...07M...Merc 50 BF...Mila K
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Terry
- Admiral
- Posts: 1487
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:35 pm
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
- Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada. '03 26M - New Yamaha 70
I keep a spreadsheet going with the prices of 4 different marinas in my imediate area (there are more if I choose to drive an hour) within 30 minutes. Two are in USA waters so I keep the exchange rate in my spreadsheet to keep all costs in CDN $. Prices are aproximate but for a 30' slip because that is the minimum at some places. They range from $2200.00 - $2600.00 per year and the cheapest (USA) has water, electricity lights security, laundry, showers, chandlery, lifts/haulout, full repairs, reastaurant and club lounge. ($1200.00/6 months)
You can buy a year, 6 months, or by the month but the cost goes up more per foot per month as you buy less. With last year and now this year being less than stellar weather wise, it is much more cost efficient to purchase by the month, although I did have one occasion where a 6 month purchase was a good decision. (superb weather season).
There is also the option of dry storage at a couple of the marinas which tranlates into less cost and I may someday choose it. North of the 49th makes annual purchase cost inefficient because generally over half the year the boat sits in the driveway for free.
A slip does pay for itself though because one uses the boat much more frequently when it is ready to go. I personally prefer one and the Admiral insists on it. (lucky me)
Currently I am still sitting on the fence waiting for spring to arrive before I purchase (we just got snow flurries over the weekend) and I may be waiting some time, but weather always dictates when I will open my wallet for a slip. Temporary moorage is best bang for the buck here.
http://www.pointrobertsmarina.com/moorage/index.html
http://portofbellingham.com/content/Arc ... _202_456_v
http://portofbellingham.com/content/Arc ... _202_444_v
These are a few USA ones right at the border who cater to Canadians but with the strong dollar they are now cheaper and I don't mind crossing the border everyday , I live right next to it.
There is a Canadian one I could ride a bike to but they are a bit pricier and the location on the water is less than convenient, it would be 45 minutes motoring out to sailing area whereas the USA ones are already out there, 5 minutes from sail hoisting. Location is a prime consideration.
You can buy a year, 6 months, or by the month but the cost goes up more per foot per month as you buy less. With last year and now this year being less than stellar weather wise, it is much more cost efficient to purchase by the month, although I did have one occasion where a 6 month purchase was a good decision. (superb weather season).
There is also the option of dry storage at a couple of the marinas which tranlates into less cost and I may someday choose it. North of the 49th makes annual purchase cost inefficient because generally over half the year the boat sits in the driveway for free.
A slip does pay for itself though because one uses the boat much more frequently when it is ready to go. I personally prefer one and the Admiral insists on it. (lucky me)
Currently I am still sitting on the fence waiting for spring to arrive before I purchase (we just got snow flurries over the weekend) and I may be waiting some time, but weather always dictates when I will open my wallet for a slip. Temporary moorage is best bang for the buck here.
http://www.pointrobertsmarina.com/moorage/index.html
http://portofbellingham.com/content/Arc ... _202_456_v
http://portofbellingham.com/content/Arc ... _202_444_v
These are a few USA ones right at the border who cater to Canadians but with the strong dollar they are now cheaper and I don't mind crossing the border everyday , I live right next to it.
There is a Canadian one I could ride a bike to but they are a bit pricier and the location on the water is less than convenient, it would be 45 minutes motoring out to sailing area whereas the USA ones are already out there, 5 minutes from sail hoisting. Location is a prime consideration.
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pokerrick1
- Admiral
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- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:20 pm
- Sailboat: Venture 23
- Location: Las Vegas, NV (Henderson, near Lake Mead)
Depends
Sorry, this is a longer post than usual. Depends upon where you are. The latest development in slips inland in Southern California is that you have to BUY it ie. at Big Bear Lake or Lake Arrowhead - - - figure $18K to 35K for a dock slip.
I am in Marina Del Rey with my Mac, right on the Santa Minica Bay and Pacific Ocean with wonderful year round sailing, winds that come from the same direction at the same times and velocity 10 months a year, and pretty good easy to get to destinations like Santa Monica, Malibu, Catalina Island, Alamitos Bay, Long Beach, Huntington Beach and Newport Beach.
I am in sort of the Beverly Hills of MDR (basin A) which has all been refurbished with concrete floating docks, 15 feet deep at high tide and 9 fett at low, free water and metered electric (runs $5-$8 a month) and a fuel dock (I get fuel twice a year whether I need it or not). We have easy and short access to the breakwater at the Bay entrance and I pay $300/month + elect. There is good security, rest rooms with showers, a barbeque area and an outdoor pool. Internet connection and cable TV are available, but I don't get internet there and I just use free TV (told you I'm a cheapskate and I'm too stupid to figure out wireless internet) The bathrooms are all being remodeled now, and I have made many friends here (in the marina not the bathroom). There are 6,000 recreational boats here and right now it is the largest manmade marina in the world - - - - the one they are building now in Dubai will be larger.
For me I have no choice but to be in a marina - - - I take my boat out 3 to 5 times every week of the year, and keeping it on a trailer would just be too much of a hassle and I wouldn't use it as much. It's the only excercise I get, and believe me, I need excercise.
Besides my whole boat situation is a rareity as it pays for itself. My home in Running Springs in the mountains is 100 miles from LA and the Marina. Before I got the Mac, I used to come into LA to play poker in the LA card rooms 3/4 times a week, and I was on Big Bear Lake with my dog in an open bow inboard twice a week. I can't commute 200 miles a day so I used to stay in hotel/motel rooms at a cost of over $1,200 a month - - - and I stayed in a lot of unsafe places because I'm a cheapskate - - -with hookers and drug dealers knocking on the door - - - but I did get a lot of phone numbers in case I ever get one of those erect**** lasting over four hours that we see advertised on TV. Anyway, now I stay on the boat instead of a hotel, sail every day, play poker at night (tough life but I volunteered anyway). So with a boat payment of $325 and a slip payment of $310 and figure I spend another $200 on the boat every month - - - I save money having the Mac and it pays for itself - - - AND it is a LOT safer and more comfortable sleeping vs the motels - - - my home away from home. I realize though, that my situation is unique (and I'm now looking for an even better one - - - am I nuts or what?).
If one can afford it, don't underestimate the value of being in a slip - - - if you are in a slip and fairly close to it, you will use your boat a LOT more!! Of course that also entails a little more boat expense because you are usng your boat more and things will wear out faster. For example, I have had my slip for 2 1/2 years sailing most days - - - so my mainsail now has 10 years of use on it (plus I don't take good care of it) and it is pretty shot and needs replacing - - - I'll replace it soon with a little higher grade sail than stock (including groumets for sail slugs) at about $800 out of Monterey.
If there's any way for you to get in a slip any way reasonably - - -JUST DO IT! You won't regret it!
Rick
I am in Marina Del Rey with my Mac, right on the Santa Minica Bay and Pacific Ocean with wonderful year round sailing, winds that come from the same direction at the same times and velocity 10 months a year, and pretty good easy to get to destinations like Santa Monica, Malibu, Catalina Island, Alamitos Bay, Long Beach, Huntington Beach and Newport Beach.
I am in sort of the Beverly Hills of MDR (basin A) which has all been refurbished with concrete floating docks, 15 feet deep at high tide and 9 fett at low, free water and metered electric (runs $5-$8 a month) and a fuel dock (I get fuel twice a year whether I need it or not). We have easy and short access to the breakwater at the Bay entrance and I pay $300/month + elect. There is good security, rest rooms with showers, a barbeque area and an outdoor pool. Internet connection and cable TV are available, but I don't get internet there and I just use free TV (told you I'm a cheapskate and I'm too stupid to figure out wireless internet) The bathrooms are all being remodeled now, and I have made many friends here (in the marina not the bathroom). There are 6,000 recreational boats here and right now it is the largest manmade marina in the world - - - - the one they are building now in Dubai will be larger.
For me I have no choice but to be in a marina - - - I take my boat out 3 to 5 times every week of the year, and keeping it on a trailer would just be too much of a hassle and I wouldn't use it as much. It's the only excercise I get, and believe me, I need excercise.
Besides my whole boat situation is a rareity as it pays for itself. My home in Running Springs in the mountains is 100 miles from LA and the Marina. Before I got the Mac, I used to come into LA to play poker in the LA card rooms 3/4 times a week, and I was on Big Bear Lake with my dog in an open bow inboard twice a week. I can't commute 200 miles a day so I used to stay in hotel/motel rooms at a cost of over $1,200 a month - - - and I stayed in a lot of unsafe places because I'm a cheapskate - - -with hookers and drug dealers knocking on the door - - - but I did get a lot of phone numbers in case I ever get one of those erect**** lasting over four hours that we see advertised on TV. Anyway, now I stay on the boat instead of a hotel, sail every day, play poker at night (tough life but I volunteered anyway). So with a boat payment of $325 and a slip payment of $310 and figure I spend another $200 on the boat every month - - - I save money having the Mac and it pays for itself - - - AND it is a LOT safer and more comfortable sleeping vs the motels - - - my home away from home. I realize though, that my situation is unique (and I'm now looking for an even better one - - - am I nuts or what?).
If one can afford it, don't underestimate the value of being in a slip - - - if you are in a slip and fairly close to it, you will use your boat a LOT more!! Of course that also entails a little more boat expense because you are usng your boat more and things will wear out faster. For example, I have had my slip for 2 1/2 years sailing most days - - - so my mainsail now has 10 years of use on it (plus I don't take good care of it) and it is pretty shot and needs replacing - - - I'll replace it soon with a little higher grade sail than stock (including groumets for sail slugs) at about $800 out of Monterey.
If there's any way for you to get in a slip any way reasonably - - -JUST DO IT! You won't regret it!
Rick
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bastonjock
- Admiral
- Posts: 1161
- Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 10:41 pm
- Location: Lincolnshire United Kingdom Mac 26X
i pay 275GBpounds a year for a drying out mooring,i get the free use of a pontoon when i go sailing at the port.It is a friendly small harbour,i cant talk highly enough of the towns people,okay they are after your business,i parked my 4x4 and trailer at a private campsite car park,i took up 4 parking spaces,they charged me for one car for two days,the local fish and chip shop gave me a business card and told me that if i was comming in late to call and they would hold some food back.
I spoke to the harbourmaster,in the UK these guys have some ancient powers and some of them can be real hitlers,anyhow i asked the guy to point me at my mooring,he said,leave your boat on the pontoon and ill moor it for you on monday and if you are coming down for the weekend,let me know and if there is a free slot on the pontoons,you can use it FOC
The downside for this harbour is acess 2 hours either side of HW,anything with a fin keel will have a hard time here,they also have large notices that i like,"NO JETSKIS,NO HOVERCRAFT stricktly 5knots max in harbour.
i can go further south and get an all acess pontoon for $4000 a year
Wells next the sea is a small fiendly harbour that wants sailors,it also has 6 macs moored there
I spoke to the harbourmaster,in the UK these guys have some ancient powers and some of them can be real hitlers,anyhow i asked the guy to point me at my mooring,he said,leave your boat on the pontoon and ill moor it for you on monday and if you are coming down for the weekend,let me know and if there is a free slot on the pontoons,you can use it FOC
The downside for this harbour is acess 2 hours either side of HW,anything with a fin keel will have a hard time here,they also have large notices that i like,"NO JETSKIS,NO HOVERCRAFT stricktly 5knots max in harbour.
i can go further south and get an all acess pontoon for $4000 a year
Wells next the sea is a small fiendly harbour that wants sailors,it also has 6 macs moored there
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pokerrick1
- Admiral
- Posts: 2269
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:20 pm
- Sailboat: Venture 23
- Location: Las Vegas, NV (Henderson, near Lake Mead)
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parrothead
- First Officer
- Posts: 426
- Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:25 am
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
- Location: Former vessel: '05 M "Blue Heaven" - Nissan 50 TLDI --- Now owner of a Gemini 3400
Lots of variation on the upper Chesapeake Bay, where our "season" is 6-7 months long. 
Where we used to be http://www.bohemiavista.com/slips_bovista.htm
$535 for seasonal mast-up storage w/elect. & water, unlimited ramp usage
$2545 for slip w/elect. & water [including $250 penalty for not doing winter storage there]
Amenities: public ramp, small marine store, small new pool, crummy showers, 3+' tidal range
Where we are now http://www.mearsgreatoaklanding.com/
$2850 for slip w/elect, water & cable TV [our negotiated "newbie" rate]
Amenities: private ramp, small marine store, large pool, restaurant w/bar & deck, beach w/tiki bar, fuel dock, live music on weekends, 2' tidal range
Where we used to be http://www.bohemiavista.com/slips_bovista.htm
$535 for seasonal mast-up storage w/elect. & water, unlimited ramp usage
$2545 for slip w/elect. & water [including $250 penalty for not doing winter storage there]
Amenities: public ramp, small marine store, small new pool, crummy showers, 3+' tidal range
Where we are now http://www.mearsgreatoaklanding.com/
$2850 for slip w/elect, water & cable TV [our negotiated "newbie" rate]
Amenities: private ramp, small marine store, large pool, restaurant w/bar & deck, beach w/tiki bar, fuel dock, live music on weekends, 2' tidal range
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ChrisNorton
- Engineer
- Posts: 132
- Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:54 am
Here in suburban New York City (Stamford, CT) the rate at a public marina for the Mac is just under $5000 for April-early November. $2500 for land winter storage.
I got priced out of that market and waited for three years for a Stamford city owned marina and now just pay $1700 season but with far lesser services. Other than work boat clubs, city owned marinas are as cheap as it gets around here and with the economy down there aren't even wait lists any longer.
I got priced out of that market and waited for three years for a Stamford city owned marina and now just pay $1700 season but with far lesser services. Other than work boat clubs, city owned marinas are as cheap as it gets around here and with the economy down there aren't even wait lists any longer.
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RickJ
- First Officer
- Posts: 292
- Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:39 pm
- Sailboat: MacGregor 19
- Location: Isle of Wight, UK - '94 19 + Tohatsu MFS30
Yeah, but it's 2 grand GBP, which is 4 grand USD.tangentair wrote:Yeah but everyone know that the American dollar is only worth 1/2 of the pound so at 2 grand in the home of British Yatching seems fair. If the dollar falls any lower, you can get a slip (pontoon) along the east coast and commute for the price of sailing there.
I think the USD would have to emulate the Zimbabwe dollar (200,000% inflation anyone?) to make me think of commuting that far to sail
Cheers, Rick