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A fine Sunday with low winds and mild healing on the Elk Neck River area of the Chesapeake.

Departing from Rogue's Harbor we had some mild winds to start ending with some strong gusts just barely getting to 40 degree heels. What a great boat this 2005 is, there was even some time for drone stills:

Nice post. I really enjoy deploying my asymmetrical spinnker when I can.

kingtoros wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:35 pm A fine Sunday with low winds and mild healing on the Elk Neck River area of the Chesapeake.

Departing from Rogue's Harbor we had some mild winds to start ending with some strong gusts just barely getting to 40 degree heels. What a great boat this 2005 is, there was even some time for drone stills:

kingtoros wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:35 pm A fine Sunday with low winds and mild healing on the Elk Neck River area of the Chesapeake.

Departing from Rogue's Harbor we had some mild winds to start ending with some strong gusts just barely getting to 40 degree heels. What a great boat this 2005 is, there was even some time for drone stills:

That looks like a great spot to play in. Did you head up into the river or out toward the lighthouse?

Just curious, were you trying to heel the boat that much for the just for the fun of it? We had a discussion about this almost exactly a year ago. For the benefit of those who did not follow the original, this is from my log of one of my first sails on my .

The wind was not as strong today but it was steady so I was able to experiment with how much heel is useful and how much is just a waste of wind.

The boat is very tender until the ballast tanks are above the water line. After that the boat it firms up and is very predictable. I could easily hold anywhere from 15 to 45 degrees at will. Here’s what I determined:

• 0-15 degrees the boat is very tender and most of the power seems to go into filling the sails and causing the boat to heel. Around 15 degrees it begins to move.

• 15-25 degrees seems to be the sweet spot with 20 probably being the best. Every increase in wind speed turns into a proportional increase in boat speed. I’d estimate that we were doing between 1/4 and 1/3 of the wind speed on a beam reach and between 1/3 and 1/2 of wind speed on a broad reach.

• 25-35 degrees is a waste of wind. If I allow the boat to continue to heel it does not go any faster. If anything it seemed to slow the boat down the more I allow it to heel. I don’t have any actual measurements. I was too busy with the main sheet to spend much time reading the instruments.

• Above 35 degrees hurts my ears. The crew yells too much and things fall off other things in the cabin. It is fun but in no way is it efficient.

I'm guessing you were testing out my last data point.

dlandersson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:48 am Nice post. I really enjoy deploying my asymmetrical spinnker when I can.

I wish it was something more than a main sail and a jib. Odd angle for the shot I suppose, but it was too pretty not to share

Be Free wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:30 am That looks like a great spot to play in. Did you head up into the river or out toward the lighthouse?

I mostly go down river, yes for the light house and deeper water. It's definitely a nice area, and reasonably close to home.

Be Free wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:30 am Just curious, were you trying to heel the boat that much for the just for the fun of it? We had a discussion about this almost exactly a year ago. For the benefit of those who did not follow the original, this is from my log of one of my first sails on my .

I'm guessing you were testing out my last data point.

I remember this post! Yes, it was 100% intentional, we were trying to see just how far we could heel. Even at 40 degrees there was no indication we were going in. And ... it was at the crew's request -- No family this time, just a bunch of thrill seeking guys. Despite my demonstrating our greater speed at a close reach, it was heeled or bust for the excitement of what exactly we could get to dislodge below.

I can tell you from experience, that you can get pretty close to 90 degrees but it's not fun. On the plus side, the boat stands right back on her feet when the wind lets up.

Be Free wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:27 pm I can tell you from experience, that you can get pretty close to 90 degrees but it's not fun. On the plus side, the boat stands right back on her feet when the wind lets up.

I concur, almost

When heeling like that, you’re not going anywhere, but the thrills are great. The only regret with extreme heels, is cleaning up below decks after all non secured items go flying


When we took our Chesapeake cruise, I remember passing through that area after exiting the Chesapeake Delaware Canal.

Toros, did you go there for the day, or did you get a transient slip.

I wasn't doing it on purpose. I got caught in a very short duration wind event. It laid the boat on it's side and spun it around in a tight circle. I doubt if it lasted a full minute but it seemed like forever. The damage I did to my right shoulder trying to release the jib sheets took almost a year to heal. Like I said, not fun.

Ouch

NiceAft wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:48 pm When we took our Chesapeake cruise, I remember passing through that area after exiting the Chesapeake Delaware Canal.

Toros, did you go there for the day, or did you get a transient slip.

I have been meaning to ask about this cruise! I don't recall seeing a trip report

Just for the day. There are various ramps in this area just off 95. Rogue Harbor is my preferred as it has deep water the moment you put in, but more protected than Stemmer's Run which is as bare bones dock/ramp as you can get.

Be Free wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:39 pm I wasn't doing it on purpose. I got caught in a very short duration wind event. It laid the boat on it's side and spun it around in a tight circle. I doubt if it lasted a full minute but it seemed like forever. The damage I did to my right shoulder trying to release the jib sheets took almost a year to heal. Like I said, not fun.

This made me gulp...

I have been meaning to ask about this cruise! I don't recall seeing a trip report

I didn’t post one

We started at Croydon, Pa. Went 50 miles down the Delaware to Delaware City Marina for the night. Traveled the Chesapeake Delaware Canal to the Chesapeake and went north to Havre De Grace, MD. Spent the night and went to Baltimore’s Inner Harbor for the night. Left there and went to Annapolis. Stayed with my wife’s sister for the night. Crossed the Chesapeake and went to Saint Michael’s for two days. Crossed back to Annapolis. Went north to Inner Harbor and then north to Havre De Grace for two days. Left there and went back to Delaware City Marina for the night, and then did the last 50 miles to Croydon. Total trip was over 200 miles.

That was three years ago. We were going to do it again two years ago, but cancelled because of storms. We were going to do it last summer, but my wife fell from a ladder trying to get into the cockpit and fractured her right shoulder blade; three ribs, and two places on her pubic bone. That took care of those plans. Three days in the hospital and three and a half weeks at a rehabilitation facility. Maybe 2024

kingtoros wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:43 pm

Be Free wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:39 pm I wasn't doing it on purpose. I got caught in a very short duration wind event. It laid the boat on it's side and spun it around in a tight circle. I doubt if it lasted a full minute but it seemed like forever. The damage I did to my right shoulder trying to release the jib sheets took almost a year to heal. Like I said, not fun.

This made me gulp...

But the good news is that there was no damage to the boat and the ballast brought it right back up as soon as the wind let up. There were a few things to pick up in the cabin but nothing broken. These boats are incredibly tough.

NiceAft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:33 pm We were going to do it last summer, but my wife fell from a ladder trying to get into the cockpit and fractured her right shoulder blade; three ribs, and two places on her pubic bone. That took care of those plans. Three days in the hospital and three and a half weeks at a rehabilitation facility. Maybe 2024

Armenians have a saying "antsats ullah" translating to "may it be in your past." The sentiment is that I hope she is better and it is only a memory.

Be Free wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:28 am But the good news is that there was no damage to the boat and the ballast brought it right back up as soon as the wind let up. There were a few things to pick up in the cabin but nothing broken. These boats are incredibly tough.

I have been telling all my friends about this and your "wind event." We conclude, cyclone.

Toros said:

Armenians have a saying "antsats ullah" translating to "may it be in your past." The sentiment is that I hope she is better and it is only a memory.

շնորհակալություն. շատ բարի քո կողմից:

If you were to look at her today, you would never know.