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Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:42 am
by Stickinthemud57
I have ordered a .75 ounce nylon drifter for use in light winds, and want to have everything prepared when it gets here. I have ordered two ratcheting pulleys, but I am not sure where I will want to mount them. The foot of this sail will be 15' (6" shorter than the standard genoa for this boat). I set the block cars for the sheets for the old genoa at the full aft position on the rails, back near the winches. This worked fine for that sail, but I see a lot of drifter sheets led further aft of the cabin, so I'm not quite sure using the old arrangement will work.

Anyone out there with any knowledge or experience flying a drifter on a 26S? Your input would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:01 pm
by Highlander
U should b able to just use ur same genoa tracks if u have them as u say ! , if not u could mount them next to the genny pulleys or 6" ahead "forward" of them , do u have a pic of the ratchet pulleys so as we can see what kind of mounting attachment they have :?: like do they have genny carrs on them already ! another option is to buy a set of used longer genny tracks , u do,nt say how long the ones u have are 24" ?
assuming u r mounting the tack & head to the same position as the genny original genny !, u do,nt mention if the Luff & Leach r the same as ur old genny ?

J 8)
https://trickyfish.net/how-do-you-size-a-drifter-sail/

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:22 am
by Stickinthemud57
Thanks for the response!

The luff and leech are significantly longer than my old genny, as I will be mounting the halyard pulley at the top of the mast.

Dimensions for drifter:
Luff - 28
Leach - 27.5
Foot - 15

Dimensions for old genoa:
Luff - 23.5
Leach - 21.5
Foot - 15.6

I wonder if the longer luff will require the sheets be led further aft for the sail to fly right. On the other hand, this is primarily a downwind sail, although it should be able to reach at least a little. Would telltales be appropriate on a sail like this?

Don't worry about pulley attachment. I have that worked out. FYI, my tracks run all the way back to the winches mounted on the cabin top.

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:04 am
by dlandersson
Use your genoa forestay (mine pulls up (and down) my Genoa sock. 8)
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:42 am I have ordered a .75 ounce nylon drifter for use in light winds, and want to have everything prepared when it gets here. I have ordered two ratcheting pulleys, but I am not sure where I will want to mount them. The foot of this sail will be 15' (6" shorter than the standard genoa for this boat). I set the block cars for the sheets for the old genoa at the full aft position on the rails, back near the winches. This worked fine for that sail, but I see a lot of drifter sheets led further aft of the cabin, so I'm not quite sure using the old arrangement will work.

Anyone out there with any knowledge or experience flying a drifter on a 26S? Your input would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:26 am
by Highlander
dlandersson wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:04 am Use your genoa forestay (mine pulls up (and down) my Genoa sock. 8)
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:42 am I have ordered a .75 ounce nylon drifter for use in light winds, and want to have everything prepared when it gets here. I have ordered two ratcheting pulleys, but I am not sure where I will want to mount them. The foot of this sail will be 15' (6" shorter than the standard genoa for this boat). I set the block cars for the sheets for the old genoa at the full aft position on the rails, back near the winches. This worked fine for that sail, but I see a lot of drifter sheets led further aft of the cabin, so I'm not quite sure using the old arrangement will work.

Anyone out there with any knowledge or experience flying a drifter on a 26S? Your input would be greatly appreciated!
He won,t b able to use his original genny forestay it,s too short ! , I,d just tie a line onto the tack or attach the the tack directly to ur genny attachment point with a shackle then attach the head to ur masthead "spinnaker" halyard & hoist it to see if u can get the luff nice & tight if not u may have to extend it out on a 12-18" pole bowsprit with 2 eye straps on the end , one on top for the tack the other on the bottom for a small bobstay to the bow eye , a 36" x 1 1/2" thick walled Alum tube pick up at a scrap yard cheap or buy an end piece cut-off at a metal mart they usually sell off half price , lash it on temporally to the bow protruding 12-18" & see how it fits this is only if u r required to for a tight luff , not tight enough so as to overly stress the luff of the sail ! . another option is to sew on a pocket to the luff of the sail then u can run a torsion line through it as a removeable forestay. I done the same thing I bought this drifter used for around $300. from Florida :)
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Luff 28' 6" x Foot 18' x Leach 25' 6" is in like new condition lightly used for sure , I,ve mounted it on my CDI Spinnaker furler which has a torsion line , notice that it has a nice high cut Clew so as to clear my cabin top so hopefully I can see under neath it so its not a deck sweeper lol

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this is a top down soft furler , I may get a pocket sewn into the luff later this fall

Hope this helps u out let me know how u make out btw some pic,s would b nice :wink:

J 8)
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Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:44 pm
by Stickinthemud57
Great ideas, thanks!

My plan for now is to keep the luff tight (but not too tight) using a halyard strung to the top of the mast. Later, I might look into a furling rig, when I am more interested in convenience than outright performance, and need to do all this while the Admiral looks on.

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:07 pm
by Highlander
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:44 pm Great ideas, thanks!

My plan for now is to keep the luff tight (but not too tight) using a halyard strung to the top of the mast. Later, I might look into a furling rig, when I am more interested in convenience than outright performance, and need to do all this while the Admiral looks on.
Just tell her it was a gift from a good friend ! :D :D :D

J 8)

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:39 pm
by Stickinthemud57
Highlander wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:07 pm
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:44 pm Great ideas, thanks!

My plan for now is to keep the luff tight (but not too tight) using a halyard strung to the top of the mast. Later, I might look into a furling rig, when I am more interested in convenience than outright performance, and need to do all this while the Admiral looks on.
Just tell her it was a gift from a good friend ! :D :D :D

J 8)
That would get me in even worse trouble!!!

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:37 pm
by Highlander
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:39 pm
Highlander wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:07 pm
Stickinthemud57 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:44 pm Great ideas, thanks!

My plan for now is to keep the luff tight (but not too tight) using a halyard strung to the top of the mast. Later, I might look into a furling rig, when I am more interested in convenience than outright performance, and need to do all this while the Admiral looks on.
Just tell her it was a gift from a good friend ! :D :D :D

J 8)
That would get me in even worse trouble!!!
when she say's who's the friend , u say family & when she say's what family U just say honey the nice young Blonde Sister U never knew U had ! :D :D :D :P . come on I dare u too ! & have someone video tape it as u do ! 8)

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:13 pm
by NiceAft
come on I dare u too ! & have someone video tape it as u do ! 8)
Stick,

If you take John up on this, myself, and many others in the entire Mac world are waiting to see how this turns out. :evil:

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:04 pm
by Stickinthemud57
NiceAft wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:13 pm
come on I dare u too ! & have someone video tape it as u do ! 8)
Stick,

If you take John up on this, myself, and many others in the entire Mac world are waiting to see how this turns out. :evil:
If so, it will be livestreamed on Facebook and posted on YouTube. I will end up single, but I might end up a millionaire! :D

Re: Fairlead mounting point for drifter?

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:49 pm
by Highlander
See I guess I was just one of the lucky one,s , because I could pull a stunt like that on my wife & she,d just reply on ur wildest dreams with a big smile on her face , next opportunity she,d have she would openly flirt with some nice young fellow in front of me then introduce me as her brother & as the guy introduced himself to me I,d say Hi don,t git ur hope,s up I,m not her brother I,m her hubby , she,s just playing U to Peeve me off ! & then she,d give me a big smile as the guy scurried off :x :)

next morning she,d bring me a coffee with a daisy flower on a plate with a sticky note sayin payback can b a Bitch :P we,d smile at each other & burst out laughing :D :D :D

Another time I pulled a similar stunt Fri night came along she's all dollied up say's don't wait up for me I'm heading out girls night out !
next day Sat. aft a big bouquet of flowers arrive at the door with a note saying enjoyed our evening together & a set if initials !, so of course duped dumb me ask,s who r they from she just casually says Oh some guy I met on "Craigslist" :P coarse I know she is pulling my leg :( , so I,m left on the hook for two wks then our Visa bill comes in the mail & she say,s lookin at the bill so who did u buy flowers for :? I say no one why & she say,s r u sure I,m no one ? so I check it again & realize the date & she say,s "Got Yeah " that,s when I realized the initials on the card were my own ! :D :D :D , she,d bought the flowers herself & had them delivered ! . needless to say she had a fantastic sense of humor :)

Moral of the story is that,s how much Trust & Love we had in & for each other

J 8)