Page 1 of 4
Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:56 pm
by GonePostal
As a brand spanking new sailor, when I first got my boat home my first thought was 'How am I ever gonna figure this all out?' I didnt even know most of the names of things let alone what they did...
Now Im getting alot closer to my first sail but need a bit more help
So I have three lines on my boat. I theoretically know what they do but not exactly in what order. Please help explain!
1. Black line. This goes from the cockpit through a locker and up to a pulley on the top of the mast stern side. Pics 1 and 4.
2. White line. Same as black line above but its pulley is one the bow side of the mast.. Both of these end with a snap swivel sorta connector (sorry for the terminology). Pic 5.
3. Blue rope. These go from a winch in the cockpit, up towards the bow where a snap swivel is tied in about in the moddle of the rope then back to the cockpit and the opposite winch. Pics 2 and 3.
I though I should have 2 halyards and 2 sheets...???? But apparently I only have three. If someone could chime in I would greatly appreciate it!
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:03 pm
by GonePostal
This is a pic of the snap swibel on the end of the white rope #2
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:14 am
by Tomfoolery
GonePostal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:56 pmSo I have three lines on my boat. I theoretically know what they do but not exactly in what order. Please help explain!
1. Black line. This goes from the cockpit through a locker and up to a pulley on the top of the mast stern side. Pics 1 and 4.
This sounds like the main halyard. Used for hoisting the main sail.
2. White line. Same as black line above but its pulley is one the bow side of the mast.. Both of these end with a snap swivel sorta connector (sorry for the terminology). Pic 5.
This sounds like the jib halyard. Presumably there is no furler, so you would would hoist the jib with this line.
3. Blue rope. These go from a winch in the cockpit, up towards the bow where a snap swivel is tied in about in the middle of the rope then back to the cockpit and the opposite winch. Pics 2 and 3.
Jib sheet. Clips to the clew of the jib or genoa (larger version of a working jib), and the tails go to each side since when you tack, the former leeward sheet half will go slack and must be loosened while the new leeward sheet is taken in and adjusted as required.
I though I should have 2 halyards and 2 sheets...???? But apparently I only have three. If someone could chime in I would greatly appreciate it!
There should be a main sheet somewhere, consisting of two or three blocks and some line. Number of blocks depends on how the main sheet is rigged, either to a traveler or fixed block in the center, or to the cockpit coming with one block on each side of the boat and the sheet making an inverted vee to the boom.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:07 am
by GonePostal
Hmm... Thanks for the help first of all. Ill play around with it tonite and hopefully Ill be able to get it figured out. Thanks so much for the help!
The PO swore everything was there and ready to go... Im wondering if it was set up as Ive described... I mean, I wonder if Im missing something or not explaining it well enough.
Ill try to figure it out and thanks again for the help!
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:29 am
by Jimmyt
The main sheet could be attached to the boom, or laying loose in the floor somewhere. My mainsheet and boom vang rigs look very similar, and might be mistaken for each other if you weren't familiar with the boat.
It's usually connected from mid boom back toward the aft end. In other words, the attachment point to the boom is between the middle and back end of the boom. The boat end would be attached to a corresponding location in or around the cockpit. If you can't figure it out, lay the boom on deck with the mast end at the the mast base location. Then take a good pick of the boom and cockpit area, and post the pic.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:32 am
by Tomfoolery
GonePostal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:07 amThe PO swore everything was there and ready to go... Im wondering if it was set up as Ive described... I mean, I wonder if Im missing something or not explaining it well enough.
Ill try to figure it out and thanks again for the help!
Not sure what you're saying, but if you look at that black line going up the starboard side and back down on the aft side of the mast, you can see a halyard shackle hanging there. That's for hoisting the main sail.
On the port side, it looks like the jib/genoa halyard but with a snap shackle on the end (your last pic).
The blue line is clearly the jib/genoa sheet. I tie a simple cow hitch instead of a shackle, as the shackle would beat up the mast when tacking.
Don't see any pictures of the main sheet, though.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:38 am
by Tomfoolery
Jimmyt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:29 amIt's usually connected from mid boom back toward the aft end. In other words, the attachment point to the boom is between the middle and back end of the boom. The boat end would be attached to a corresponding location in or around the cockpit. If you can't figure it out, lay the boom on deck with the mast end at the the mast base location. Then take a good pick of the boom and cockpit area, and post the pic.
Jimmy
I was under the impression that the V222 used this style main sheet (see below - forgot the name) like many entry level boats did back-when, but since I've never owned one or even saw one first-hand, I could be wrong.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:45 am
by Jimmyt
You know better than I, Tom. I just figured, that since he was having trouble finding the main sheet, we ought to broaden the search. Since the boat has a few years on it, things may no longer be where they once were. Wait, I resemble that remark...
Similar version from my buddy's Potter 19 - yesterday sailing Dog River...
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:47 am
by Tomfoolery
Some long shots of the deck, cockpit, and boom would go a long way here. He even seems unsure of the rigging he's already posted.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:49 am
by Jimmyt
Tomfoolery wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:47 am
Some long shots of the deck, cockpit, and boom would go a long way here. He even seems unsure of the rigging he's already posted.
I think you got him straight on what he showed in the pics. Long shots would have definitely helped me. Closeup of a rope clutch is a difficult clue.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:37 am
by GonePostal
Thanks so much for the help guys! I AM unsure... haha
Im at work now but I will post up a few more long shots this afternoon. And fwiw my boom is NOT attached like in the previous post i.e. 2 attachment points in the stern. Unless Im doing something wrong
Anyhoo, pics will be posted this evening and Im sure you guys can educate me haha Thanks!
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:18 am
by Jimmyt
GonePostal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:37 am
Thanks so much for the help guys! I AM unsure... haha
Im at work now but I will post up a few more long shots this afternoon. And fwiw my boom is NOT attached like in the previous post i.e. 2 attachment points in the stern. Unless Im doing something wrong
Anyhoo, pics will be posted this evening and Im sure you guys can educate me haha Thanks!
We've all been right where you are now. We just need enough info about your rig to help you.
Hang in there! It gets easier.
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:28 am
by Tomfoolery
GonePostal wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:37 amAnd fwiw my boom is NOT attached like in the previous post i.e. 2 attachment points in the stern. Unless Im doing something wrong
No worries. But these 222's do have that style mainsheet system, FWIW. Yours may not, but pictures certainly would help.
https://www.sailingtexas.com/sventure222h.html
https://www.sailingtexas.com/sventure222g.html
https://www.sailingtexas.com/sventure222d.html
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:44 pm
by GonePostal
Re: Venture 222 running rigging help
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:45 pm
by GonePostal
