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Rudder brackets
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:47 pm
by whgoffrn
It seems like every other trip to the bahamas I'm reading about ends with a rudder bracket broken so naturally it got me looking at my own....i have a 99x and I believe has the SS bracket to the best of my knowledge.....ive never even seen any other Macs besides my own to compare to so I looked online doing searches ... sometimes polished aluminum looks like ss but from pics I'm fairly sure there is a significant difference and fairly sure I have ss brackets
Question is what can be done to try to avoid this common problem I'm seeing ..... I bought a shark drogue from fiorente with knowing it could help me steer if I broke my rudders but ideally I want to make sure they don't break
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:28 am
by Cougar
Rest assured: when you have a '99
you have the SS rudder brackets. The alu brackets are black. Both types are not readily interchangeable, because the steering linkage and the rudders themselves are also different.
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:59 am
by sailboatmike
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:00 am
by whgoffrn
Ty yeah I definately have the ss ones I didn't realize the aluminum ones were black...... have there been any reports of people breaking the ss ones? I'm wondering if I should buy a spare
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:18 am
by dlandersson
I have the old aluminum ones. Regardless. I'm a huge fan of having a spare.
whgoffrn wrote:Ty yeah I definately have the ss ones I didn't realize the aluminum ones were black...... have there been any reports of people breaking the ss ones? I'm wondering if I should buy a spare
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:49 am
by Tomfoolery
whgoffrn wrote:. . . i have a 99x and I believe has the SS bracket to the best of my knowledge.....ive never even seen any other Macs besides my own to compare to so I looked online doing searches ... sometimes polished aluminum looks like ss but from pics I'm fairly sure there is a significant difference and fairly sure I have ss brackets . . .
Old style (cast aluminium brackets with Easter Island moai-like rudders):
New style (formed and welded sheet SS brackets with longer rudders*):
First photo from Herschel's post in the Steering Limits thread.
Second photo is of my boat.
*I don't know if the rudders are late-model OEM, or aftermarket from IDA Rudder though. They appear to be solid HDPE, not FRP ('fiberglass' with gel coat).
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:53 am
by whgoffrn
Ty for the pics yeah I have the ss ones.....anyone hear if these are also a weak point that often breaks?
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:34 am
by Tomfoolery
I've never heard of that type breaking, and believe me I've tried (with those looong rudders), but me not knowing of such a problem isn't the same as them never having a problem of course.
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:13 pm
by Herschel
tomfoolery dubbed my rudders
Easter Island moai-like rudders
That is neat. Never seen that connection, but you are right. What an apt description. Perhaps I will watch the New Zealand rugby team a little closer and try my hand at their pregame chants. Ugga-ugga!
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:45 pm
by sailboatmike
Herschel wrote:tomfoolery dubbed my rudders
Easter Island moai-like rudders
That is neat. Never seen that connection, but you are right. What an apt description. Perhaps I will watch the New Zealand rugby team a little closer and try my hand at their pregame chants. Ugga-ugga!
You mean the Haka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:40 am
by Don T
Old style (cast aluminium brackets with Easter Island moai-like rudders):
FYI - This is a pic of the early (95) X brackets, they bent easily. The later aluminum brackets are thicker and the side gussets extend forward past the cutaway for the rudder.
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:42 am
by Don T
Don T wrote:Old style (cast aluminium brackets with Easter Island moai-like rudders):
(Actually they are made of flat aluminum plate)
FYI - This is a pic of the early (95) X brackets, they bent easily. The later aluminum brackets are made from thicker plate and the side gussets extend forward past the cutaway for the rudder.
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:03 am
by dlandersson
Thank you - I just learned something new.
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:54 am
by Tomfoolery
Herschel wrote:tomfoolery dubbed my rudders
Easter Island moai-like rudders
That is neat. Never seen that connection, but you are right. What an apt description. Perhaps I will watch the New Zealand rugby team a little closer and try my hand at their pregame chants. Ugga-ugga!
From the link sailboatmike posted above:
Re: Rudder brackets
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:15 am
by Herschel
