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how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:41 am
by kurz
Hello
How you fix your anchor while it is on the bow during sailing?
Thanks - kurz
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:45 am
by budgates
I'm not clear on your question. Are you asking how we attach our anchors or is yours broken?
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:02 am
by Wayne nicol
i made an anchor holder- bigger than the standard mac one- two pieces of s/s bolted either side of the existing roller, with extra rollers in it- holds my 22 lb plough anchor, and it has a pin through the plates and the anchor stock that keeps it all in place- will get a photo up today. i know other folk who have bought an after market anchor roller- and bolted it on- same deal
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:34 am
by NiceAft
kurz wrote:Hello
How you fix your anchor while it is on the bow during sailing?
Thanks - kurz
Kurz,
You most likely speak English much better than I speak any of the four recognized languages of Switzerland, but I think clarification is needed so as to understand what you mean by “fix”. To stabilize, or, to repair, that is the question.
Ray
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:47 am
by kurz
NiceAft wrote:kurz wrote:Hello
How you fix your anchor while it is on the bow during sailing?
Thanks - kurz
Kurz,
but I think clarification is needed so as to understand what you mean by “fix”. To stabilize, or, to repair, that is the question.
Ray
When you are sailing and want your anchor stay on the anchor roller. The anchor will fall down probably. So my question is if anybody has a good idea to stabilize the anchor in the stock 26m anchor roller.
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:05 am
by NiceAft
Kurz,
I can not (at this moment) produce a photo of my solution, I can try to explain
I place the long shaft of the anchor on the roller, with my Delta style anchor facing the water. I then take the chain, starting at the links close to the anchor shaft, and criss cross back and forth over the shaft, wrapping the chain around the cleats on either side of the roller. I then place the remaining chain and rode into either the anchor locker, or through the front hatch and into the Vberth. I always check the anchor for snugness, and it has always held.
If I knew there was going to be rough seas, the anchor would be stowed away. Why take chances
Ray
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:49 am
by Wayne nicol
i know you said stock roller- but here is what i did anyway- if that helps you mate.
i pin the anchor, and chain into the anchor locker- never moves.
at the back of my bracket you can see a small to plate welded on- that retains the back of the stock
cheers
wayne

Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:49 am
by Wayne nicol
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:01 am
by dxg4848
kurz wrote:
When you are sailing and want your anchor stay on the anchor roller. The anchor will fall down probably. So my question is if anybody has a good idea to stabilize the anchor in the stock 26m anchor roller.
This should work good with stock anchor roller.

Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:04 pm
by BOAT
I'm going real ignorant here, um, when I am sailing I keep my anchor in the "anchor locker" , , , what am I doing wrong here?
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:09 pm
by Wayne nicol
depends on the anchor chap, i use two 22lb plough anchors.
they most certainly will not fit in the locker!
a small dansforth might fit in the locker though
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:26 pm
by BOAT
Oh yeah, I get you now - I do not use a big anchor like that on the bow. When I need the big gun I throw it off the stern and it stays in the motor well in a bag hanging off the mast trailer support arch. Otherwise it's in the area under the sliding galley. I never thought about using the big one off the bow - in strong wind you don't put the stern into the wind? (

uh oh. looks like I'm doing it wrong again - that's the way I was taught as a kid to secure a small boat in strong wind). My trailer boats seem to dance a bit with the bow in the wind - oh well, I guess I learn every day. I guess I should turn the boat around,

that's embarrassing!

Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:11 pm
by Chinook
A simple low tech solution is to attach a short line to the bow pulpit and clip a snap shackle through the trip line attachment hole in your anchor. Another solution can be purchased from West Marine, called the Lewmar Anchor Lock, sold here in the States for 28.99. Model number is 9397134, or Lewmar number LEWMA#66840070. It's a simple stainless steel plate with two ears, which mounts on the foredeck. The shank of the anchor fits between the ears, and a quick release pin inserts through the hole in the shank where the chain connects. It's a tight fit to install one on the bow of a 26X but I managed. The anchor lays in it off center, to the right of the anchor locker hatch cover. It provides a very good way to secure the anchor in its roller.
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:53 pm
by BOAT
Wow, you guys do some really hard core hanging off the hook stuff - I know the seas are ruff in Canada, are there bad currents too? There is not much of a tide flow over here and the seas are pretty calm - I guess I don't have any really hard core anchor experiences. Do you use those big 30 pound plow anchors all the time?
Re: how you fix your anchor while on the bow?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:55 pm
by Wayne nicol
hey Boat, i dont think youre doing anything wrong.. if it works.
if it aint broke......
cant speak for the rest of canada, but up here in the north west- (we are on a group of islands- 60 miles from the mainland) the pacific can get a bit rough. and yes we do have a big tidal range - 24 feet- so put that in a confined space- it sure can run- not too uncommon to have 5 or 6 knot currents around here.
but our main problem, as we are all volcanic/ seismically induced outcrops of rock here, is that our little bays and inlets or anchorages can be very narrow, and get deep real quick.
so the problem for me, is that if you are setup with say an anchor in 40' of water- now you have maybe 200 feet of rode and chain out there- minimum, when the tide or wind changes, and you swing on the hook, you will be on the rocks on either side, in a heartbeat.
and waiting for an anchor to unhook, and reset, is just a little too sketchy for me
so i always set up a "Bahamian Moor" two anchors set in line with the current, when the tide is flooding, yer hanging on the one, when it ebbs , you're on the other.
for over night , i just cleat each anchor off to a bow cleat( wouldnt mind putting in some cleats about 6 feet back- will stop all that wagging at anchor) overnight- one twist to undo is not bad..
but when i am staying a few tide changes, i set the two anchors up , both tied to the same buoy, then i tie to the buoy, with a swivel- that way the boat does not get twisted up.
so i carry two 22 lb anchors with 50' of 5/16 chain and 200' rode on each, and a spare 200 ' of rode.
and i set up proximity alarms on the chartplotter.
hope that helps bud- just what we do!!