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Light dual axle?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:33 am
by bobbob
The Magic Tilt dual axle trailers claim to be around 800 lbs empty weight- perfect for my tow rating. But I'm having difficultly finding out which model(s) are a good match for a :macx:

Any other suggestions for a sub-1000 lb dual axle aluminum trailer?

Cheers

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:09 pm
by Erik Hardtle

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:34 pm
by March
I think the MacGregor 26X might weigh more than that

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:09 pm
by RobertB
Erik Hardtle wrote:Here is what I used:
http://www.enctrader.com/hardtlefamily/ ... newtrailer
Eric, looking at your list of mods, I see you use a yard LED light for an anchor light at the top of the mast.
Do you have a way to switch this off?
Reason: If you sail at night, this light would indicate to others you are under power since it can be seen from ahead. This is the reason I have a relay reverse the polarity of my mast and anchor light (on top of mast) depending if I am under power or at anchor.

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:23 pm
by bobbob
Erik Hardtle wrote:Here is what I used:

http://www.enctrader.com/hardtlefamily/ ... newtrailer
Despite the picture that is a dual axle model right? Regardless its just too heavy. There seem to be several Aluminum models that can carry 5000-6000lbs, are long and wide enough, and weigh around 840lbs, but I don't know enough about the bunk configuration to say if any of them will work:

http://www.magictilt.com/trailers/aluminum

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:33 am
by sirlandsalot
One thing to consider with dual axles. If you ask any trucker they will tell you your fuel economy goes up. And the cost of keeping the rubber up to standards over doubles because of the dramatically increased wear time. If you use good quality tires with high load capacity, there is no reason you should ever have a blow out. If you think about how many blow outs you have had on your car in your life.....

You also double the chance of a blow out! :D

In the commercial helicopter world, oil companies are all asking for twin engine. Those of us that know the helicopters, not like they would consult the pilot.... know that very few can actually fly at gross weight on one engine. So now there is double the chance of engine failure in a machine that can't maintain level flight on one engine! The world today......

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:15 am
by Russ
RobertB wrote:
Erik Hardtle wrote:Here is what I used:
http://www.enctrader.com/hardtlefamily/ ... newtrailer
Eric, looking at your list of mods, I see you use a yard LED light for an anchor light at the top of the mast.
Do you have a way to switch this off?
Reason: If you sail at night, this light would indicate to others you are under power since it can be seen from ahead. This is the reason I have a relay reverse the polarity of my mast and anchor light (on top of mast) depending if I am under power or at anchor.
Interesting. I use those solar LED lights on my dock, but they aren't that bright. Surely not 2nm bright.

(Back to trailer talk)

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:41 am
by bobbob
Good points about dual axle. In my case towing will be occasional, and the need to keep a lighter tongue weight combined with the redundancy piece of mind is driving me to dual axle.

I still have been relatively unsuccessful in getting information about the appropriate dual axle Magic Tilt trailer. The company will not respond directly to me, wanting my questions to be handled by the dealer network. The two dealers I have talked to are clueless and are instead asking the questions back to the company. Not a great way to run a business if you ask me...

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:55 pm
by Gabby_SC
Charleston Trailer co. #843-224-6634 http://www.charlestontrailer.com/ is custom building trailers just for Macs. You can actually talk to a technition

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:22 pm
by 81venture
I've got one that would prob work with some minor re-bunking with a clean title for $800

It's galvanized, dual axle...no brakes though, but could easily be added for not too much..

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:24 am
by gabid
bobbob wrote:The Magic Tilt dual axle trailers claim to be around 800 lbs empty weight- perfect for my tow rating. But I'm having difficultly finding out which model(s) are a good match for a :macx:

Any other suggestions for a sub-1000 lb dual axle aluminum trailer?

Cheers
Hey bobbob, I picked up last week my new trailer from this guys in Brampton: http://www.excalibur-trailers.ca/traile ... f4555b.htm. It does not look like the one in the pictures, but the same characteristics. For the same price they build a custom one to fit my boat and included the ladder forward and boat guides, electric disk brakes on forward axle. They had my old :macx: trailer for the summer to build a template of the frame.
I am really happy with it, I hauled the boat for 100km on highway, it's very balanced and now I really enjoy pulling it. I finally feel safe with that load behind the 4Runner.

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:19 am
by bobbob
Thanks for the recommendations, but just to be clear - due to towing capacity I need a lightweight (read: Aluminum) trailer. The Magic Tilt trailers are compelling because they are sub-900 lbs. I don't think a Galvanized Steel trailer could ever be that light.

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:37 am
by bobbob
Well, I finally got word back from Magic Tilt through a dealer that they have no specs on a Mac 26 and are unable to suggest a trailer model that would be appropriate. So back to square one I suppose. :(

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:42 pm
by Gabby_SC
Bob, Just talked with Charleston trailers again http://www.charlestontrailer.com . Give them a call 843-224-6634 , they make a trailer fitted to the Macgregor price about $3850- 6000 lb capacity and weighs about 800-900 lbs. They do send trailers to Canada

Re: Light dual axle?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:13 am
by bobbob
Thanks - I'll call them today. That's a little more then I was hoping to spend (particularly with whatever shipping rate is going to be applied), but its an option.