Templates

[Ixneigh]

Anyone think about assembling a library of templates for common mods? I spent hours making templates for under cockpit combing shelfs. What a pain and they still did not come out as good as i would have liked.
If one person here started a collection we could all barrow them.

Like so:

I need the cockpit combing shelf template. Bob sends them to me, because he has them since someone who is actually good at making them made it for their boat, and sent it to bob.
Now I use them and return them back to bob with some xtra dollars to cover his cost in sending them to me.
Or maybe with paypal or something.

Just a thought.

Ixneigh

[gyroplanes]

I just paid a carpenter friend to make a mock-up back "deck" (swim platform) for my 1998 . He is now making the final product. I could probably make a template for the deck and take copious pictures if it all comes out well.

I will be posting about the scary mods I just made to my I almost made a couple of mistakes that could have been ugly. I did make one small one that is almost ugly. When I'm finished, I'll write it all up, up load the pictures and pay it forward.

[gyroplanes]

I have not seen cockpit coaming shelves... any pictures anywhere?

[1st Sail]

Anyone for creating the 2d Cad drawing for free using Google Sketchup. It's free, anyone can download and print out the templates. You could print out the drawing 100% of scale even with a home laser or inkjet printer. Then tape the sheets together to form the life size drawing.

[Divecoz]

Due to the design of this boat , it might be difficult to do.. I say that, because the contour is constantly changing on these boats as you move forward or back, up or down.. If you use my templates you would need to place your mod exactly were I placed mine..( imho if you good enough to alter my template your more than accomplished enough to make your own template..)
You need a scribe tool . Some bum ! Never returned mine and in time I made my own...Its a piece of oak 1" x 1" about 10"s long. It has 6 holes drilled in it.
3 of those allow a standard pencil to snugly..... slide through them . Then 3 more are drilled 90 degree opposed to those 3 . These small #7 holes are taped to 1/4 x 20 thread to accept a 1/4 x 20 thumb screw.. ( thats why I used oak)
We are going to make 3 templates, out of 1 piece of cardboard.. 15 minutes now , saves hours of work only to be ashamed of what you built later..Or You Should Be Ashamed!
The end of the scribe is Square and flat! This Reduces wobble ! First template, use the hole farthest from the hull.. and mark the template.. Looks good! Or it should .. But its not! Now moving the pencil and the set screw in one hole, and do this again.. WOW this one really looks good and it does fit decent but 5 minutes more will provide a perfect fit.. Moving the pencil and set screw in, to the closet hole , scribe again.. You should have a perfect match /fit now ..I use New Razor Blades for each template..for every cut.. Buy them by the 100 and they are CHEAP! I have 2 counter tops to work on in my shop . 1 is 10 feet long the other is 8 feet long . Both are covered in Formica.. Nice flat surface to work on..
My Brother and a few other, no doubt accomplished Cabinet makers on this site have better ways of doing tis ... Mine works for me and will work for you..
You now need to transpose this to the material selected for the project.. Take Your Time! Align it perfectly! If your feeling rushed?? Do this project another day.. Match the tool to the job and make sure the cutting devise is SHARP.. Be it a saw blade snips or shears .. care for your tools makes a huge difference to the finished product.. Finished side up?? Or Down?? It all depends on the material your cutting.. PRACTICE on a piece of scrap..
The most difficult material for me to work with is Plexiglass / Lexan what ever....take your time practice and when done? Sand it smooth and carefully heat the cut and sanded edges till they become crystal clear again.. if thats the desired finished out come..

IMHO....Don't bother Measuring with a Micrometer and Marking with a Diamond Scribe ONLY to cut it with a Chain Saw!!

[Divecoz]

Please explain how you would use this program to produce a template for a cabinet ( side surface) to be mounted to the inside liner ( window height area )
How do you come up with the original contour plate? I have used both 2d and 3d Cad programs for making general templates , but I dont see how it would work for much of what guys want to do here.. We most often??? We need to match the New Project to the existing contours..If your making a mounting plate of some sort on a flat surface this would and does work..I am ready to learn ....

Anyone for creating the 2d Cad drawing for free using Google Sketchup. It's free, anyone can download and print out the templates. You could print out the drawing 100% of scale even with a home laser or inkjet printer. Then tape the sheets together to form the life size drawing.

[Ixneigh]

See what i mean? Divecoz should be saving all his tmplates because i only use cardboard and masking tape and play with it till it fits well enough. Sometimes i end up refining it later, so i like to fit things using few attatchment points to the actual boat. My whole clothing storage and shelf unit is held in place by two screws into the actual boat but will stay put even when the yachts on her side. I make all my junk out of plyood first. I may paint it, or use the plywood as a pattern for much nicer teak veneer construction.
Someone with a good woodshop could probably make a nice profit selling simple mods for these boats. One shelf took me all stinkin day. Ida paid fifty bucks for one cut and finished just for the that fit perfect and just screwed in with a few small metal clips.

Ixneigh

[Ixneigh]

Heres the shelf



Heres the clothing storage unit with top junk shelf and drawer or my sketching itms



Very happy with that. Functions as a hand hold while going up forward.

Ixneigh

[Divecoz]

Looks good to me from here IX...Mock ups are a GREAT idea! Shows Patience Persistence and Diligence.. Alas I most always, toss out my templates and end up burning or recycling my mock ups..
Actually my brother and I are in the process of discussing ... the possibility of producing the most often desired mods on the if we can find an to fitting purposes we might offer them for X's as well.
1. Full Enclosures
2. Cabinetry
3.Weighted, winged or un-winged dagger board.
4. a Diver quality transom ladder..I would like this to be adaptable to side mount..
Numerous other ideas are on our table..
Custom canvas work is far simpler than the the 1 off Custom made Dive suits he was relatively Famous for, for years.. SeaTux USA
HUGE stumbling Block for this endeavor , is my home in IL...... Not Selling as of yet..... so I can move to Port Charlotte Fla.

[mastreb]

Divecoz--I'm a buyer for (1) and (3). Although I've got some ideas regarding (3). Basically there's a LOT of ways to go, but keeping it simple is key. I'm all about weight in the deep, but it also has to trailer without hitting anything even as the boat goes in askew. Let me know what you come up with.
Seriously someone should put together a store containing all the common mods--I'd like to buy the vent mod as a complete kit as well. There should be a >real< shopping cart on this site, not just boomkickers and keelguards.

[Divecoz]

Which "Vent Mod" are you referring to?
Don and I have had long discussions on the.....
Full Enclosure.. which he has done already for numerous.... larger... Power boats ..
Weighted Dagger and adding a wing.. and Lots of issues with that one, to keep the price down..including a core charge? Flush to the bottom is easy.. but with that contour, will it be beneficial to sailing ???
Galley mods .. something along the line of Ikea, where its all shipped in a flat box and is a simple assembly ..
a Dive / Boarding ladder. One that is adaptable to rear or side mount..

A big plus for us is, we are both retired and have income and this / these , would allow quality time together and added fun... and a little money to our pockets..
I ? Just need to Get Down There ....and so far? its just not happening.

Divecoz--I'm a buyer for (1) and (3). Although I've got some ideas regarding (3). Basically there's a LOT of ways to go, but keeping it simple is key. I'm all about weight in the deep, but it also has to trailer without hitting anything even as the boat goes in askew. Let me know what you come up with.
Seriously someone should put together a store containing all the common mods--I'd like to buy the vent mod as a complete kit as well. There should be a >real< shopping cart on this site, not just boomkickers and keelguards.

[mastreb]

The vent mod I'm talking about is the tube running from the ballast vent up to the chain locker. I haven't done it yet but intend to--would be simplest if I could just buy a kit with the tube cut to length, fittings for the vent and the chain locker. I'd like to keep the 1" hole and plug in place, maybe drill a 1/2" hole next to it and put a real fitting on the 1/2" hole by inserting the bottom flange through the existing hole. Would be interesting to fit a whistle into the chain locker vent so you can hear whenever the ballast is going in or out as well.

With any keel mod, I want to keep my existing dagger-board unmodified so I can go back and forth, which means I'd be looking to buy the entire thing as a unit.

Anyway, I've got more $ than time (only because I have no time) so I'm the right kind of customer for you..

[Divecoz]

A little off topic , but not entirely.....
I have a showing today for a pre-approved $$$ buyer... ( thats has put the kibosh on many a tire kicker , as they need to have documents in hand to prove they can afford this house and property... No Lookers! 5% Cash Earnest money in my lawyers escrow to even make an offer..
Potential buyer has a need..... for this rehabbed 1870's 3 story house ( a house that is now , way to big for us, being close to 5000 sq. ft. ) and my lot.
Our lot , which by adding a gate would access their property to my backyard.... 1.5 acres ( I own the entire center 250' x 250' of a city block) If all goes well???? I could be out of here and headed for FLA. in a matter of months ..
I talked last night with my brother and he feels , we could be up and running ( producing products for sale ) in about a year..maybe less.. It would all depend, on how long it takes me to purchase a home and get it to where I want it..

[WidespreadSailing]

If anyone has any "templates" that would fit a 96X please let me know. My boat needs a lot of "mods" done to her and any templates would be great.

Great Idea.

[K9Kampers]

See what i mean? Divecoz should be saving all his tmplates because i only use cardboard and masking tape and play with it till it fits well enough. Sometimes i end up refining it later, so i like to fit things using few attatchment points to the actual boat.

Same here. My current galley concept mock-up excercise...
#1


#2


For all the designs I've sketched on paper, the cardboard mockups come to me as I'm cutting & taping. I am searching for something organic in shape without being too funky. #2 was inspired by the draft angles of the interior, is still evolving and is likely to become reality very soon!