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Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:12 pm
by bubba
First just hose your boat with a little water ( water is water ), then it takes 3 bottles of champain per person who is experensing the renameing cerimony. Drink 2 bottles each, quickly from the bottles and when you can't think of the old name anylonger smash the 3rd bottle on the boat and it's done. AARRGGGH
Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:24 pm
by elvatoli
I'm going to perform the denaming ceremony for my 2000 MacX, since we bought it las November, we would like to have a new name.
Under the denaming rules by the sea gods (I know it sounds a little nuts to believe on this), you have to remove the old name and any traces of the old name like logbooks and everything that shows the old name.
First of all, in order to remove the name, I'm going to use a hairdryer and a spatula, because another sailor told me that a heat gun is to much heat for the fiberglass hull.
Then I will use Muratic Acid to take rid of any traces on the hull, and then Wax everything. I dont know wich wax will be better to leave the hull shinny white. Ideas ?
This is going to be performed while the boat is sitting on the trailer, so I dont know if it have to be performed on the water, or if it is Ok for the gods to be informed about the denaming of this boat later when we are at the water.
Then the renaming ceremony will come. This one I'm sure have to performed on the water, to let know Posidon and Aelious about this new boat on their territory in order to be protected everytime.
At that time is when you use the red wine or champagne over the hull.
I have the complete instructions, but they never mention anything about when to perform the denaming and the renaming and if it have to be on the water or if it is Ok on the trailer.
Thank you
Hector
Port Isabel, South Padre Island, Brownsville, San Benito, Texas
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:59 pm
by elvatoli
I forgot to ask. Since I'm keeping part of the name, if there is any problem or confusion with the gods.
Old name is Southern Cross , using cursive letters.
New name will be, Lover's Cross , keeping the old "Cross" , and trying to imitate the letter type for Lover's (I dont know if it is a good idea to imitate this or to cokpletely change the letter type and color (Black), to Red Wine color.
Hector
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:18 pm
by Russ
elvatoli wrote:I forgot to ask. Since I'm keeping part of the name, if there is any problem or confusion with the gods.
Old name is Southern Cross , using cursive letters.
New name will be, Lover's Cross , keeping the old "Cross" , and trying to imitate the letter type for Lover's (I dont know if it is a good idea to imitate this or to cokpletely change the letter type and color (Black), to Red Wine color.
Hector
I doubt you will match the letters very well unless they are stock hardware store variety.
Muratic Acid sounds a bit harsh. Can you work your way up starting with alcohol or something milder...soapy water.
--Russ
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:54 pm
by March
Also, the re-naming ceremony takes effect only when the keel touches the water. That's when you break the champaigne bottle. You can do all the lettering on shore, but make sure you have the charm handy (there is one, you know) when you first launch.
Wouldn't the waking interfere with the glue from the letter? You might want to wax after you put the letters in, once every sign of the older ones is gone
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:15 pm
by Jamie79
I was looking around the other day and found a few links i'll post more if i can find them again hope this helps.
http://www.boatus.com/news/namegame.htm
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:31 pm
by Rick Westlake
Google John Vigor's de-naming ceremony. Even if you aren't superstitious (and if you aren't, why are you a sailor?

) there is a satisfaction, for me, in following the Traditions Of The Sea. He spells it out well, and it's the ceremony I used for my first boat, Beija-Flor. (The PO of my second boat hadn't actually christened it or put a name on the transom, so I had a clear place to put "Bossa Nova".)
You do need to remove EVERY TRACE of the old name, EVERYPLACE it appears. As John Vigor said, "Don't just overpaint it -
remove it, even if you have to sand it off." (I did have to sand off the former name, of my MacGregor 19, which was "Intrepid"; I used 320-grit sandpaper after every solvent known to Backyard Boats and West Marine failed to remove the stain of the old name. "Intrepid" is a good name for a first-class aircraft carrier, but not for a little spit-kit like the MacGregor 19. "Beija-Flor," the name I bestowed on her, is Portuguese for "Hummingbird," which fits a Mac 19 much better.) If the old name is on any tools or equipment, remove every trace of it from them - or remove the items. Paperwork goes home with you, so it's no problem.
Do the ceremony - which properly involves rum, a "gift of silver" for Neptune with the old name on it (get a 1964-or-earlier quarter, write the old name on that with a Sharpie pen, and pitch it into the water), and the proper mind-set for invoking the old man and asking a favor. Which you are. Leave the transom bare for at least overnight, then put on the new name and "bust your champagne" the next day.
One last tip - for boats as small as ours, it's quite acceptable and ecologically better to shake up the "christening bottle," let the cork fly, and hose down the foredeck with it, rather than scattering glass shards all over your marina! (I don't recommend red wine, it's a 8i+c# to clean off gelcoat!) But the christening bottle isn't enough; provide a glassful of bubbly to every friend and idle spectator in the immediate vicinity, to toast your new "Fiberglass Princess" and join in wishing you the best luck with her.
Have fun!
-Rick
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:42 pm
by NiceAft
I thought you were french and were talking about denaming ceremony for deboat

Go know
Ray
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:44 pm
by Rick Westlake
How demeaning! I mean, you missed de meaning entirely. A misdemeanor at least.
An' if I were
French, I would have been talking about "
ze name for
ze boat!"

Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:34 am
by NiceAft
Misdemeanor
I thought that was a well behaved young lady

Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:47 am
by elvatoli
I have on my research papers that you have to do 2 ceremonies, one for denaming and another one for renaming
The first one with a friends reunion (Can be made out the water) telling a gods prayer that I have and having food and drinks for your guests and if you want pouring a botlle on top of the hull just to give something to your ship.
When you do the renaming ceremony (it have to be on the water) you have to pour champange over the hull again because some is going to your ship and all of it will end in the sea, so your giving this to the gods.
I dont know if I'm correct or understood the whole thing
Hector
RGV, TX
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:27 pm
by bubba
How did my post end up first on this chat, I didn't start it.
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:50 pm
by grady
I was just getting ready to name my 95 26s and found this.
http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm
Luckily the boat has never been named so I can bypass the de-naming and just get to naming. I will do the whole ceremony. not that I am superstitious just if I do it and it did not need to be done there is no harm, but if I do not do it and it needs to be done, whoops.
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:53 pm
by kmclemore
bubba wrote:How did my post end up first on this chat, I didn't start it.
No, you didn't. However, you *did* post a response to the duplicate of this thread, which was posted *before* this second thread was started... hence your posting has an earlier time than the thread's start and it comes first. I moved your post to this thread because there was only one to move - this thread already had several responses.
Sorry for any confusion. Duplicate threads sometimes cause problems.
Folks, if you've hit the 'submit' button on a new thread or a posting, PLEASE BE PATIENT. Hitting it again only causes duplicates.
Re: Denaming ceremony
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:33 pm
by FLembo18
bubba wrote:How did my post end up first on this chat, I didn't start it.
KM clemore wrote : "No, you didn't. However, you *did* post a response to the duplicate of this thread, which was posted *before* this second thread was started... hence your posting has an earlier time than the thread's start and it comes first."
Okay, then whose on Third ??
Frank L.