ANyone with a business under 100 employees who uses MIcrosoft products hasnt done their homework, unless you have unique Windows only software requirements.
A business acquaintance of mine who has a guitar business in CA was fined by MS for not having licenses on three of his roughly 100 machines, paid the fines, investigated Linux as a result, and setup up a new Linux server system for the cost of one year of MS licensing fees - wrote a nice thank you to MS for opening his eyes.
Biggest difference between Apple OS and MS is that Apple's works...
thats why people apply the double standard, imho, Art.
I do heavy MS application work and resend my machine to Corporate IT twice annually for re-imaging, which is basically rebuilding the OS from scratch...I stay on good terms with IT guys at all times....funny how the MS marketing pitch is "we make your people productive"
In my next life there will be no MS products coming through my front door.
GPS / Sounder Deal
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albion
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Geez, Thanks guys. Bloody confusing aint it.Pehaps I should buy a sextant & compass. LOL-
Bransher
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I'm curious if anybody has used the Standard Horizon CPV350? I just had mine delivered by UPS last week and haven't yet installed it. It's a bit more expensive than what I had budgeted, but I was swept away by what it offers in one unit. Considering the limited space available in a MacGregor, the ability to have GPS, Chart Plotter, VHF, Fishfinder, and hailer in one small unit with a 7 inch 800 x 480 resolution screen that fits on the steering pedestal seemed to be perfect.
http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS. ... Archived=0
http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS. ... Archived=0
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Shane
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While I like the concept, my biggest concern would be losing all components function if one died. ie: do they have a common power supply? If so, and it fails, do I then lose GPS, VHF, and sounder? Although I need to get both, and would like the convienience, I'm still leaning towards a more modular system. The choices certainly aren't getting any easier. I hope you keep us up to date on your experiences with it.Bransher wrote:I'm curious if anybody has used the Standard Horizon CPV350? I just had mine delivered by UPS last week and haven't yet installed it. It's a bit more expensive than what I had budgeted, but I was swept away by what it offers in one unit. Considering the limited space available in a MacGregor, the ability to have GPS, Chart Plotter, VHF, Fishfinder, and hailer in one small unit with a 7 inch 800 x 480 resolution screen that fits on the steering pedestal seemed to be perfect.
Regards,
Shane
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Duane, this link that you posted at the beginning of the thread seems now to point to 2000C DF fishfinder with no mention of the gps plotter. (I think!)
Is it the same unit?
Duane, this link that you posted at the beginning of the thread seems now to point to 2000C DF fishfinder with no mention of the gps plotter. (I think!)
Is it the same unit?
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Frank C
This Eagle product page still shows the SeaChamp 2000C, and indicates that the GPS is optional~! You might be able to just buy the antenna separately, and the older style Lowrance antenna might work too - caveat emptor! So, the full-monty SeaChamp is still on Eagle's website, and still available at BassPro for $1,000 to 1,200. If you're trying to drive the boat according to charted depths, that big screen will be a big help!
Eagle SeaChamp 2000C-DF
I also see that Eagle's latest SeaCharter models with 5" displays offer full 640x480 VGA resolution (for 2007?). My Lowrance 5" display (332C) is only 480x480. Consider the SeaCharter a compact version of the SeaChamp with one card slot instead of two, retailing around $599 - actually a very good deal for full VGA resolution. Both models use NMEA 0183. (NMEA 2000 is reserved to the Lowrance models, for now.)
One last thing ... both Lowrance and Eagle's websites offer a "compare button" that permits stacking the models for side-by-side comparisons. Excellent for doing some homework before spending close to a BoatBuck.
SeaCharter 640C
Eagle SeaChamp 2000C-DF
I also see that Eagle's latest SeaCharter models with 5" displays offer full 640x480 VGA resolution (for 2007?). My Lowrance 5" display (332C) is only 480x480. Consider the SeaCharter a compact version of the SeaChamp with one card slot instead of two, retailing around $599 - actually a very good deal for full VGA resolution. Both models use NMEA 0183. (NMEA 2000 is reserved to the Lowrance models, for now.)
One last thing ... both Lowrance and Eagle's websites offer a "compare button" that permits stacking the models for side-by-side comparisons. Excellent for doing some homework before spending close to a BoatBuck.
SeaCharter 640C
"A business acquaintance of mine who has a guitar business in CA was fined by MS for not having licenses on three of his roughly 100 machines, paid the fines, investigated Linux as a result, and setup up a new Linux server system for the cost of one year of MS licensing fees - wrote a nice thank you to MS for opening his eyes."
I see. So your acquaintance got caught stealing someone elses property and as a result switched operating system's. There's logic for you. And how many folks out there put a free copy of Office on their machine before Microsoft put an end to that? Nah. This is just another case of petty theft.
Biggest difference between Apple OS and MS is that Apple's works...
thats why people apply the double standard, imho, Art.
The OS has been around for a long time in many different iterations. To say that one works and the other doesn't is a huge generalization. If you have been around the Mac for sometime surely you have experienced their version of the blue screen?
Why don't you let us in on the debacle that is currently transpiring with the new version of Apple's Itunes software. Millions of machines have been trashed because of this atrocious software and the company refused to admit there was even a problem. When they finally did, they said they would try to assist users, but you would have to pay for it.
I see. So your acquaintance got caught stealing someone elses property and as a result switched operating system's. There's logic for you. And how many folks out there put a free copy of Office on their machine before Microsoft put an end to that? Nah. This is just another case of petty theft.
Biggest difference between Apple OS and MS is that Apple's works...
thats why people apply the double standard, imho, Art.
The OS has been around for a long time in many different iterations. To say that one works and the other doesn't is a huge generalization. If you have been around the Mac for sometime surely you have experienced their version of the blue screen?
Why don't you let us in on the debacle that is currently transpiring with the new version of Apple's Itunes software. Millions of machines have been trashed because of this atrocious software and the company refused to admit there was even a problem. When they finally did, they said they would try to assist users, but you would have to pay for it.
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I do not think that is the exact same unit I bought. I think the key is it says just "Fishfinder" not "GPS/Fishfinder". It's also $100 less without the GPS antenna. Mine was $599 and included the antenna.
To Franks post,
I think the pictures he posted show the clear advantage of the wider 7" screen. The 5" screen split doesn't give you enough area to display any reasonable area of the chart. That said, I never used my old one or the new one in the sounder bottom display they always show. To me none of that information really mattered. I just want the depth and I put it on the full screen chart numerically. If you think you will use it like I do then the smaller screen would be OK but you still might find it small. For years I used my PocketPC as the color chartplotter. My HP unit has a great 640x480 screen, razor sharp, daylight veiwable (the brighter the sun the brighter the display), yet in the end I found it's 4.1" screen too small for extended use. (It's still my backup with my Bluetooth GPS and it does a great job in the car with my street map software.)
Also pay attention to the card slots. There is a very good reason to have 2 slots. If you use a Navionics chart card you cannot write waypoints, routes, or tracks to this card without also buying the overpriced Navionics card reader. They specifically warn against putting the card in a standard card reader like the one built into many laptops. They claim it will corrupt the charts and render the data un-usable. I do not know if there is the same restriction using the Lowrance NautiPath charts.
Because of this you really need two slots, One for the chart card, and one for your data. I just recycled a 128Mb SD card I had left over from my pocketPC for the data card. I put this in my laptop and load it up with my waypoints and routes in .USR file format from my charting application 'Memory Map'. Once all the planning is done I just put this card in the second slot and the SeaChamp loads everything right up. I also store all the GPS tracks of the actual trips to this card. This makes it easy to pop the card in the laptop after the trip and bring the track back into memory map for posterity, web graphics, conversion to google earth kml files, etc.
Using the second card slot for this is much easier than messing with cables between the GPS and the laptop to do this data transfer.
P.S.
Chevy, PC, Catalina, Pepsi
To Franks post,
I think the pictures he posted show the clear advantage of the wider 7" screen. The 5" screen split doesn't give you enough area to display any reasonable area of the chart. That said, I never used my old one or the new one in the sounder bottom display they always show. To me none of that information really mattered. I just want the depth and I put it on the full screen chart numerically. If you think you will use it like I do then the smaller screen would be OK but you still might find it small. For years I used my PocketPC as the color chartplotter. My HP unit has a great 640x480 screen, razor sharp, daylight veiwable (the brighter the sun the brighter the display), yet in the end I found it's 4.1" screen too small for extended use. (It's still my backup with my Bluetooth GPS and it does a great job in the car with my street map software.)
Also pay attention to the card slots. There is a very good reason to have 2 slots. If you use a Navionics chart card you cannot write waypoints, routes, or tracks to this card without also buying the overpriced Navionics card reader. They specifically warn against putting the card in a standard card reader like the one built into many laptops. They claim it will corrupt the charts and render the data un-usable. I do not know if there is the same restriction using the Lowrance NautiPath charts.
Because of this you really need two slots, One for the chart card, and one for your data. I just recycled a 128Mb SD card I had left over from my pocketPC for the data card. I put this in my laptop and load it up with my waypoints and routes in .USR file format from my charting application 'Memory Map'. Once all the planning is done I just put this card in the second slot and the SeaChamp loads everything right up. I also store all the GPS tracks of the actual trips to this card. This makes it easy to pop the card in the laptop after the trip and bring the track back into memory map for posterity, web graphics, conversion to google earth kml files, etc.
Using the second card slot for this is much easier than messing with cables between the GPS and the laptop to do this data transfer.
P.S.
Chevy, PC, Catalina, Pepsi
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Frank C
Duane,Duane Dunn, Allegro wrote: ... My HP unit has a great 640x480 screen, razor sharp, daylight veiwable (the brighter the sun the brighter the display), yet in the end I found it's 4.1" screen too small for extended use. (It's still my backup with my Bluetooth GPS and it does a great job in the car with my street map software.)
P.S.
Chevy, PC, Catalina, Pepsi
Which HP handheld unit?
Which "street map" software, Memory map or other?
Which Bluetooth GPS?
P.S.
GMC, PC, Catalina, diet Coke
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HP hx4705 Pocket PC
http://www.amazon.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4705-Po ... B0002DV9DM
Case for PPC in cockpit
http://www.otterbox.com/products/pda_cases/1900/
Chart Software
http://www.memory-map.com/navigator.htm
Street Map Software, Pocket Map Navigator
http://www.pocketmap.com/navigator.html
Fortuna Clip On Bluetooth GPS
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/fortuna-clip-on.php
PS, I mis-spoke
Chevy, PC, Catalina, Diet Pepsi (non of that leaded stuff)
http://www.amazon.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4705-Po ... B0002DV9DM
Case for PPC in cockpit
http://www.otterbox.com/products/pda_cases/1900/
Chart Software
http://www.memory-map.com/navigator.htm
Street Map Software, Pocket Map Navigator
http://www.pocketmap.com/navigator.html
Fortuna Clip On Bluetooth GPS
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/fortuna-clip-on.php
PS, I mis-spoke
Chevy, PC, Catalina, Diet Pepsi (non of that leaded stuff)
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Frank C
Thanks much.
I'm thinking mainly for the car (not happy with Lowrance iWay), but I guess it's also a great backup for the boat. I own a half-dozen older Toshiba PDAs, now discontinued (business use, some years back), but none have full VGA.
If I could find Toshiba's model e830 from Canada (also discontinued), that's what I'd really like to have, now about $300 on eBay. It was actually the first full VGA pocket PC, including embedded BT & WiFi radios, plus CF & SD card slots. It was the predecessor to your HP (but Toshiba simply couldn't compete with Compaq.)
I'm thinking mainly for the car (not happy with Lowrance iWay), but I guess it's also a great backup for the boat. I own a half-dozen older Toshiba PDAs, now discontinued (business use, some years back), but none have full VGA.
If I could find Toshiba's model e830 from Canada (also discontinued), that's what I'd really like to have, now about $300 on eBay. It was actually the first full VGA pocket PC, including embedded BT & WiFi radios, plus CF & SD card slots. It was the predecessor to your HP (but Toshiba simply couldn't compete with Compaq.)
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