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Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:11 am
by Bilgemaster
BOAT wrote:Bilgemaster wrote:BOAT wrote:I guess we all need to be aware of our "oil making" habits no matter what kind it is because it appears either can get you into trouble - one with the mechanic and the other with the ATF.

I presume you mean "making ATF", like the Automatic Transmission Fluid in the trim hydraulics?
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives: ATF
Yeah, I get it: "ATF"...

Just trying to get another rise out of grady by waving that other red flag of additional mystically ever-increasing fluids is all.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:16 am
by BOAT
All right, everyone stop trolling Grady - he's not the new guy anymore.
You guys need to find some one else to pick on.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:30 am
by Bilgemaster
C Buchs wrote:
I have a 2000 Honda BF50. I just replaced the water pump impeller (I got the complete kit PN 06193-ZV5-020, $52.86)
Jeff
You must have that rugged little "shortie shaft" model 2000 BF50AY SRJA if you're needing to get that
06193-ZV5-020 kit for $52.86, because pretty much
all other models use the rather more barebones
06192-ZV5-003 kit or similar for just $18.48. Then again, never mind a bit of sand or weedery...My hunch is your cooling system with that reinforced sleeve could swallow a fair-sized alligator and happily keep on going.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:45 pm
by C Buchs
Bilgemaster wrote:C Buchs wrote:
I have a 2000 Honda BF50. I just replaced the water pump impeller (I got the complete kit PN 06193-ZV5-020, $52.86)
Jeff
You must have that rugged little "shortie shaft" model 2000 BF50AY SRJA if you're needing to get that
06193-ZV5-020 kit for $52.86, because pretty much
all other models use the rather more barebones
06192-ZV5-003 kit or similar for just $18.48. Then again, never mind a bit of sand or weedery...My hunch is your cooling system with that reinforced sleeve could swallow a fair-sized alligator and happily keep on going.
Page two of these
http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/pe/ ... 307pdf.pdf instructions lists two kits, a service kit and a rebuild kit. I elected to get the rebuild kit because I hadn't replaced the impeller yet and I didn't know what I would find. I figured better safe than sorry. It turns out I really didn't need the extra parts. I went ahead and replaced everything with the new parts, but put old ones in my spare parts bin. When I do this again in a couple of years, I'll buy the service kit and if I "swallow a fair sized alligator" and damage something (I do tend to get stuck on sandbars), I've already got spares.
Jeff
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:32 pm
by grady
Bilgemaster wrote:BOAT wrote:Bilgemaster wrote:
I presume you mean "making ATF", like the Automatic Transmission Fluid in the trim hydraulics?
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives: ATF
Yeah, I get it: "ATF"...

Just trying to get another rise out of grady by waving that other red flag of additional mystically ever-increasing fluids is all.

Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:23 pm
by Highlander
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:18 am
by Estate Sail
My 26M came with an E Tech 60 and has been a good engine with 3 year service intervals. As an E Tech owner I found this commercial funny.
https://youtu.be/nWaqOnXlUhI
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:20 am
by Tomfoolery
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:28 am
by Jimmyt
Both of those videos should come with a "brace yourself" warning! Laughed till I cried.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:31 am
by K9Kampers
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:19 am
by BOAT
What is the difference between an evinrude and a johnson? Are they different in some way? Are they both owned by Bombardier? (That's the Canada people that make the snow mobiles and all the trains that are running around in Oceanside - right?) We ride the little trains all over the place here, but we never tried their snow mobiles cuz it never snows - I can SEE the snow on the mountains in the distance from my back yard but I have not gone up there to try out a snow mobile yet. I guess I need some advice from Canada people - did they make my evinrude? Who made the johnson?
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:53 am
by K9Kampers
What's the difference between Chevrolet and Pontiac, between Dodge and Chrysler, between Ford and Mercury, between Ski-Doo and Moto-ski?
In short, the original Evinrude was formed in 1907, and a newer Evinrude was formed in 1921 (same founder, different company). Johnson came about in the early Nineteen's. Evinrude and Johnson outboards were competitors throughout the Twenties and in the mid Thirties, they merged into what became Outboard Marine Corporation - OMC. OMC was acquired by Bombardier in 2001. They are basically the same thing under different badges / colors.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:02 am
by BOAT
K9Kampers wrote:What's the difference between Chevrolet and Pontiac, between Dodge and Chrysler, between Ford and Mercury, between Ski-Doo and Moto-ski?
In short, the original Evinrude was formed in 1907, and a newer Evinrude was formed in 1921 (same founder, different company). Johnson came about in the early Nineteen's. Evinrude and Johnson outboards were competitors throughout the Twenties and in the mid Thirties, they merged into what became Outboard Marine Corporation - OMC. OMC was acquired by Bombardier in 2001. They are basically the same thing under different badges / colors.
So they are both owned by the same Canada people? Both of them are made in Canada? Is there any difference at all between the two?
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:23 am
by K9Kampers
BRP has manufacturing facilities in different countries for different products. The Evinrude product is manufactured in North Carolina and Wisconsin.
Back in the '90's, before being acquired by Bombardier, the Johnson badge was carrying on with the standard outboard technology of the time while the Evinrude badge was developing more environmentally friendly technologies starting with FICHT and then ETEC.
Re: Honda BF50 making oil
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:38 am
by BOAT
K9Kampers wrote:BRP has manufacturing facilities in different countries for different products. The Evinrude product is manufactured in North Carolina and Wisconsin.
Back in the '90's, before being acquired by Bombardier, the Johnson badge was carrying on with the standard outboard technology of the time while the Evinrude badge was developing more environmentally friendly technologies starting with FICHT and then ETEC.
Okay, I guess that explains why the guy in the song said that he has a "Johnson" and "don't have no Evinrude!" - I guess the "Johnson" is the preferred motor of the 'Larry the Cable Guy' crowd because it has the carburetor and puts out more pollution - that makes sense I guess in a Florida kind of way - I got tripped up on that part of the song because I thought the motors were the same but it appears they are not! Interesting!