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Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:55 am
by dlandersson
Great Lakes water levels near 20 year high 8)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:55 pm
by Phil M
From the article:
"The concept is that as you warm up the atmosphere, it is able to hold more water and the next thunderstorm can then take that moisture," he said. "So there is a direct link between these heavy rainfalls and climate change."
Interesting concept. :o

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:14 am
by dlandersson
You could also argue that as the atmosphere holds more water, there is less water deposited and the lake level should drop :wink:
Phil M wrote:From the article:
"The concept is that as you warm up the atmosphere, it is able to hold more water and the next thunderstorm can then take that moisture," he said. "So there is a direct link between these heavy rainfalls and climate change."
Interesting concept. :o

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:44 am
by Phil M
dlandersson wrote:You could also argue that as the atmosphere holds more water, there is less water deposited and the lake level should drop :wink:
But the lake levels did not drop, so your analogy wouldn't explain what actually happened. :wink:

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:51 pm
by dlandersson
No, and I wasn't trying to - just providing an alternate explanantion. 8)
Phil M wrote:
dlandersson wrote:You could also argue that as the atmosphere holds more water, there is less water deposited and the lake level should drop :wink:
But the lake levels did not drop, so your analogy wouldn't explain what actually happened. :wink:

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:53 am
by sailboatmike
Or you could argue that its just normal climatic variation that has not been seen since 1986.

Not getting into a climate warming debate (again), I just want a cleaner, less polluted environment for my kids and grandkids (yep Im going to be a Grandparent at the ripe old age of 55) to grow up in, that should be enough for anyone

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:59 am
by dlandersson
8)
sailboatmike wrote:Or you could argue that its just normal climatic variation that has not been seen since 1986.

Not getting into a climate warming debate (again), I just want a cleaner, less polluted environment for my kids and grandkids (yep Im going to be a Grandparent at the ripe old age of 55) to grow up in, that should be enough for anyone

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:44 am
by Tomfoolery
sailboatmike wrote:. . . (yep Im going to be a Grandparent at the ripe old age of 55) . . .
Life's good from this side of the threshold. I became a Grandparent (Diedukas in Lithuanian, so I'm 'Papa Duke') at the ripe old age of 58.

Prior to boarding. First time on a boat. Fat guy in the Tilley is rumored to be the owner of a very fast white hulled MacGregor.

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Fresh from a diaper change below decks at the dock.

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Looking forward to more boating with her this summer. Even bought the next-size-up life jacket already. In pink. Global warming and political correctness be damned. 8)

My son took the pics, so I don't have any of the three together on the boat. :( Next time. :)

Just trying to steer clear of the political minefield of AGW.

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:10 pm
by Phil M
8) I'm looking forward to sailing with my grandchildren as well this summer.
Global warming and political correctness be damned.
We are likely too old to derive the full effects, IMHO, but our grandchildren will. Some of the comments in this forum might outlive us, and perhaps our grandchildren will determine our position on such isues some day. It's not global warming that will be damned. :|

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:57 pm
by Tomfoolery
Phil M wrote:8) I'm looking forward to sailing with my grandchildren as well this summer.
Global warming and political correctness be damned.
We are likely too old to derive the full effects, IMHO, but our grandchildren will. Some of the comments in this forum might outlive us, and perhaps our grandchildren will determine our position on such isues some day. It's not global warming that will be damned. :|
Ummmm, that was supposed to be funny. Lake levels here at least are due to lots and lots of rain plus snow melt. PC is because her life jacket is pink, and so is the new one. See the teeny tiny print at the bottom of my post. :P

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:09 pm
by Phil M
Um, yeah, okay. :|

Great pics! 8) And lucky kids to have a grandpa who sails too. :wink:

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:19 am
by sailboatmike
Gee I even take my 82 year old mother out for a sail in a dinghy, she hasnt made it onto the Mac yet, maybe this season as dad has now gone into a home due to failing health, she really enjoyed the dinghy but there was little more than a breeze, having the sails cranked hard on the Mac may not be her cup of tea, so maybe just a leisurely cruise

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:55 am
by dlandersson
Great pictures - kudos on your children and grandchildren 8)

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:46 pm
by sailboatmike
Tomfoolery wrote: political correctness be damned.
Mate your gender stereotyping with the pink, surely a gender neutral colour would be far more correct and let the girl / boy or whatever they decide sex they may or may not like to define their self as :D :wink:

Gee Monty Python were way before their time when they made "Life Of Brian" they covered this issue to comic perfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs

Re: Great Lakes Water Levels

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:33 am
by Catigale
Tomfoolery wrote:
sailboatmike wrote:. . . (yep Im going to be a Grandparent at the ripe old age of 55) . . .
Life's good from this side of the threshold. I became a Grandparent (Diedukas in Lithuanian, so I'm 'Papa Duke') at the ripe old age of 58.

Prior to boarding. First time on a boat. Fat guy in the Tilley is rumored to be the owner of a very fast white hulled MacGregor.

Image

Fresh from a diaper change below decks at the dock.

Image

Looking forward to more boating with her this summer. Even bought the next-size-up life jacket already. In pink. Global warming and political correctness be damned. 8)

My son took the pics, so I don't have any of the three together on the boat. :( Next time. :)

Just trying to steer clear of the political minefield of AGW.
Congrats on the little ones , I didn't know you were a Jugo.....Svieks! ( I think you guys use that, if not pretend it's Estonian/Latvia)