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So even thought there is nothing in the amnual about it I should NOT use any ethenol gas in that ETEC60, right?

BOAT wrote:The Evinrude ETEC60 Manual did not say anything that I can remember about "non-ethenol" fuel ? ! ? Did I miss somthing? Am i putting the wrong gas in 'boat'?

ETECs are rated for 10% ethanol according to the manual, and that's what I've always run in mine, as Marina gas is 2X what pump gas is here in So Cal. All gas here has 10% ethanol by law if it goes into automobiles.

The ETEC is a three cylinder two-stroke, but it uses direct injection and sensors to determine exactly when it needs to inject oil, so it uses very little. They have a special "XD-100" mode that thins it out even more, but I run regular two-stroke oil. I've only topped off the oil once and I've had the boat for two years. Still have a year to go before the 1st recommended service, and I've never done any kind of maintenance on it.

This year the boat has sat for six months through the "winter" with no prep, and the ETEC started right up. Just had to pump the bulb a little for gas. ETECs have a "Fogging mode" built in you can run which, along with a water flush, is the only recommendation for storing the motor.

I've been extremely impressed with it.

I personally feel like I'm big pimpin' when I gas up at the gas station. I climb right into the cockpit and fill 'er up. No way I'm manhandling 12 gallon tanks in and out.

You need to play big pimpin very loud next time while refueling Captains hat and aviators, and a big gold chain, all the way!

Okay, but I am still kinda embarrased cuz everyone is looking.

BOAT wrote:Okay, but I am still kinda embarrased cuz everyone is looking.

They're looking and thinking, "Cool looking sailboat."

Obviously you've never seen other boats at gas stations. They do the same thing, climb up and pump gas cheaper than at the marina. One of the bene's of a trailer boat.

BOAT wrote:Okay, but I am still kinda embarrased cuz everyone is looking.

That's envy fella There's not a haughty looker amongst them

Ray

RussMT wrote:

BOAT wrote:Okay, but I am still kinda embarrased cuz everyone is looking.

They're looking and thinking, "Cool looking sailboat."

Obviously you've never seen other boats at gas stations. They do the same thing, climb up and pump gas cheaper than at the marina. One of the bene's of a trailer boat.

It's true, only thing I have ever seen are ski boats at the gas station and that's usually way up north of Los Angeles on the freeway where the lakes are. Not down here. I think once I saw jet skis at the gas station around here, that's about it. Never a sailboat and not one this big. We trailerd the Aquarius 23 often in Mexico when i was a kid and Dad stopped at the PEMEX stations for gas in the car and even then we got fewer stares except when a policman would would ask for papers ot at a checkstop. (Dad usualy could get us back on the road by giving them 5 or ten bucks).

That would never happen in Canada. But now I think in Canada they will want to see our Porta Pottie. Now THAT'S embarrassing. (They do that in Avalon now too).

BOAT wrote: Never a sailboat and not one this big.

I know what you mean. But that's because most sailboats this size fill their quart sized kicker motor tank from the gas can used for the lawn mower.

We trailerd the Aquarius 23 often in Mexico when i was a kid and Dad stopped at the PEMEX stations for gas in the car and even then we got fewer stares except when a policman would would ask for papers ot at a checkstop. (Dad usualy could get us back on the road by giving them 5 or ten bucks).

That would never happen in Canada. But now I think in Canada they will want to see our Porta Pottie. Now THAT'S embarrassing. (They do that in Avalon now too).

Interesting. Something about paying off the policia would make me nervous.
As for Canada, you are probably right. I believe in some areas Portapotties are not legal unless they have a deck fitting to pump them out. Guess they are afraid folks will dump them over the side.

RussMT wrote:I believe in some areas Portapotties are not legal unless they have a deck fitting to pump them out. Guess they are afraid folks will dump them over the side.

And that, of course, also stops people from jumping into the water to "do their thing", right? Puh-leeeeez... Guv'mnt reguhlashuns hard at work.

RussMT wrote:As for Canada, you are probably right. I believe in some areas Portapotties are not legal unless they have a deck fitting to pump them out. Guess they are afraid folks will dump them over the side.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/de ... 1610.htm#f

From what I can tell, even deck fittings alone aren't enough. It has to be permanently mounted and the 'pour out' capability disabled or removed. However that is supposed to be accomplished.

Yeah, in Mexico back in the old days 5 or 10 bucks would open doors all over the place. I'm sure there was more to it than just flashing money - I think you needed to have the right attitude and say the right things too. My dad was an expert at getting around and making friends. One time we even traveled with the govener of baja. I remember one time in the 70's in baja we had a lobster breakfast at a beutiful place right on the beach served by very well dressd waiter and nice plates and silverware. The entire check for a family of four was 8 bucks. Dad tipped the guy ten bucks. We always got first class treatment in Mexico back in those days. It was very very nice.

I have not been back there since the 80's except on a big cruise ship. It's all screwed up now and everything is "Americanized". Big hotels and bars and everything in english and buildings everywhere. CABO looked more like Orange County California than Mexico to me. The last time I was there very few buildings existed at all. It's really strange.
The people in Mexico were nice enough, not as nice as Canada people but still nice. The meanest people I have ever encountered traveling are people from Oregon. I think they hate Americans more than most others and they hate Californians more than anyone I have ever encountered. I have been pulled over by more cops for just being 'American' more times in Oregon than in any other country. If you have California plates they will hassle you everywhere you go and they get really mad if you pass them when they are going 45 on the freeway. Your better off to just stay behind them and drive 45 like everyone else. That's what i do until I get to Washington.

Oh, and I would be scared to death to buy gas for the boat in Oregon. It's bad enough they make fun of you for even opening your car door at the gas station, so how am I supposed to get out and fill up 'boat' if I'm not even allowed to touch the pump??

I have not figured that one out yet, so I'm sort of avoiding that place until I can find a friend up there to help me. It's sort of scary to be in Oregon if you have California plates.

BOAT wrote:Oh, and I would be scared to death to buy gas for the boat in Oregon. It's bad enough they make fun of you for even opening your car door at the gas station, so how am I supposed to get out and fill up 'boat' if I'm not even allowed to touch the pump??

First time I visited Portland I was still living in New Jersey, the only other state the doesn't allow you to pump your own gas. So I was used to sitting in my rental car waiting for service. The guy pumping the gas was thrilled to meet someone from another state that "got it" about full service.

Eeh, when I was in New Jersey, they would hand you the hose if you had something other than a car (motorcycle, gas can etc.) No worries there.
However, you probably experienced Los Angles bias via your Cali plates. Seems folks round the country have a distain for LA residents.

RussMT wrote:First time I visited Portland I was still living in New Jersey, the only other state the doesn't allow you to pump your own gas. So I was used to sitting in my rental car waiting for service. The guy pumping the gas was thrilled to meet someone from another state that "got it" about full service.

Eeh, when I was in New Jersey, they would hand you the hose if you had something other than a car (motorcycle, gas can etc.) No worries there.
However, you probably experienced Los Angles bias via your Cali plates. Seems folks round the country have a distain for LA residents.

Having lived 8 loooong years in central NJ, when I make my frequent biz trips to NJ or NYC now, I actually avoid buying gas in NJ. I fill up in PA so I have enough to get back to PA without stopping.

I'm afraid I no longer 'get it'.

Having lived 8 loooong years in central NJ, when I make my frequent biz trips to NJ or NYC now, I actually avoid buying gas in NJ. I fill up in PA so I have enough to get back to PA without stopping.

For the difference in gasoline prices between PA & NJ, I would stay in the car. At least a $.10 a gallon difference between southeast PA & south NJ.

Ray