Composting Head, roller furling and roller main worth it?

[Russ]

And of course we all know the saying

In these Isles of sun and fun, we never flush for number one.





--Russ

[C Striker]

I thought it ended " never admit while you are going number one"

I'm 6 foot even and it's not a real issue. I have a porta potty and someday it will get upgrated to the M version of Sumners. That is what works, a home sized toilet seat. Lift the seat and some extra plywood around it. Then put the lid back on.

Couple questions. What dealer are you considering? Where will you be sailing?

Quebec, nice pic! Do you usually beach bow in? I was wondering if doing it that way was safer for the hull. I stern in, simply because I have a 60 pound boxer that has to go pee.

Erik

[pokerrick1]

Dive hit the nail on the head (pardon the pun Cat) - - - use any of the heads you may chose for your Mac as little as possible - - - if it is possible to "go" elsewhere; do it

Rick

[Sumner]

.....I am (at the moment) planning to dump it via the septic tank cleanout port in the backyard (which is a 4" fitting). Drag the hose around to the back, open the cleanout, dump, rinse...then we can deal with the rest of it and at least I'm outside the whole time. We're planning to upgrade to the 5-gallon-ish one too...

Double Doodie Bags/Wag Bags....leave the toilet on the boat, fold the one bag into the outer one and zip it shut. Takes about the same amount of time as putting a sandwich into a zip-lock. Put the bag in a bucket with an airtight lid, when appropriate carry the bucket ashore and throw them away.

No walking around with a porta-pottie, no hoses, no trying to clean and rinse anything out, no trying to pour into something and not get splashes or any other mess.......

We were going to try Snook Inn today, but walked to the post office and grocery store and ran out of steam. We will probably dinghy over there tomorrow.

Sum & Ruth the baggers,

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[Catigale]

I live on a cul-de-sac, but I actually made a 1/2 pipe thread to waste hose. When I come back , I use the macerator to pump out directly into the sanitary sewer..rinse a few times with water to make sure its cleaned out for season.

Im replacing the PP this season with a china bowl Dometic with 10 gallon holding tank

[vizwhiz]

We were going to try Snook Inn today...We will probably dinghy over there tomorrow.

They have a grouper sammich with sweet potatoe fries that's fantastic. They also make a mahi-mahi sammich, same thing.
It's a little on the high side, but the food is really good, and you can pull up in the boat. Nice view and all that too...

I'll reconsider the baggie thing - I used to do that with the kiddo's when they were really little and we would travel by car (minivan). I'd take a little kiddie-size inflatable potty (easiest thing to use/store) and stick double bags down inside (bought the roll of 90 4-gal bags from wally-world so there would always be plenty), kids would do their thing, get 'em all wiped up good (Mr. Mom here) and then tie up the bags and put them in a box or something to hold until we reached the next rest stop or gas station. So it isn't that I don't have first-hand experience, I was just trying to rationalize the difference between doing that for a little-bitty-kid and doing it for an adult. Perhaps no reason to be so squeamish. (Admiral on the other hand...)

When I come back , I use the macerator to pump out

Cat, can you please explain? You have a macerator pump on the boat?

[C Striker]

I was just trying to rationalize the difference between doing that for a little-bitty-kid and doing it for an adult. Perhaps no reason to be so squeamish. (Admiral on the other hand...)

I have a feeling if the Admiral is a dog lover, it is of the "arf arf" variety and not the woof woof

I don't particularly like

My biggest concern is...."aim"... (WHAT???? You're kidding right?)
Oooh, a little left...
wait, back a couple degrees
Oh man, this is getting...wait don't lift that side...
Too late...
I can't look!!
Okay honey, your turn!

OK for once I can really say lol cuz that is funny!

What I should do is get some of Sumners sweet buckets ordered and not even bag. The morning dump followed by the afternoon sail out into the blue. Add a rope for a few dips and spray accordingly. Gee, it may be unsafe though. Better get an autopilot
Hmmm this sounds better and better the admiral says she loves the idea of auto pilot. Good old Youtube! To her means, you know... no work!

Erik

[Ixneigh]

I have the roller furling but am ambivalent about it. Sail shape suffers when rolled halfway. A nice stout working jib would set better. I once had a jib that had a reefable section in it just like the main. That worked well.
The m sails herself pretty well by any standard and a lot better then many boats I have been on, just by securing the wheel. I had no problems going around the boat looking at stuff under sail that way.
If you do get the furling, note that if you also get the zip up sail cover, it's sort of a pain to use. Plus it forms more of a bundle to move around at a windy anchorage.
I may revert to the Hank on system. I've sailed for years with it and the convenience of furling might not be worth the hit on windy weather performance, just when the boat needs all it can get.

Ixniegh

[Divecoz]

Its a toss and a personal decision on the Roller Furler - V - Hank On. My decision to buy a roller was after a few issues....... on my Florida, single handed trip.. Issues with hanking on and off ... I did BTW Mount 2 - 3/4" PVC pipes horizontally on each side up front on the bow rails and used 5/16 line to "weave" a Open basket / Net....... to catch my jib when I lowered it.. I guess, I should either remove it once the Roller is in place , or at least replace Those Tacky White PVC pipes with S.S. tubing and fittings....

[Sumner]

......I'll reconsider the baggie thing - I used to do that with the kiddo's when they were really little and we would travel by car (minivan)......

I think you will find there isn't much comparison. These are a bag within a bag and there is no leakage, but still store them up right in the sealed container. Make sure you do have an airtight container you store them in.

We have been using the 5 gallon buckets with the snap on lids with the screw in centers that I linked to for a couple weeks and really like them for the Double Doodie bags and other storage.

Sum

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[bartmac]

Still can't understand the reasoning behind bagging and having to deal with the multiple baggies when a compost toilet solves the whole mess with absolute minimal ongoing costs.No smell and the end product is environmentally safe.....use it on the garden... billions of Chinese can't be wrong

[C Striker]

Hey Sum?

I checked that site and searched for screw top 5 gal buckets. Only 1 type came up... life latch. I'm not sure it is the 3 piece style you have. I am sure that price is awful high. They don't even know it's for a boat!

Do you have another brand name or something?
Hope hope hope.

thanks,
Erik

[Sumner]

Still can't understand the reasoning behind bagging and having to deal with the multiple baggies when a compost toilet solves the whole mess with absolute minimal ongoing costs.No smell and the end product is environmentally safe.....use it on the garden... billions of Chinese can't be wrong

I agree, but the $1000 is a small or not so small obstacle for some. For us it is a space issue. We couldn't put one in our S size wise.

We have talked seriously about one if we do buy an additional larger boat. Problem there is at our age we might not have it very long and would probably never get that money back when we sold it.

Still they look good, I just think that for those who can't afford one or where they don't have the space for one the bags offer a solution to someone over the porta-pottie that has such a limit on the number of days you can stay out.

I do have a couple questions I couldn't find answers for on their web site. One is where can you dispose of the contents if you aren't home? Can it go into a bag and left in a dumpster?

The other is let's say you are using it on a continual basis, month after month. What happens with the last few days deposits to the head that haven't composted. Is there a time where you have to use something other than the composting toilet to let it finish it's cycle before you dump it?

Thanks,

Sum

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[Sumner]

Hey Sum?

I checked that site and searched for screw top 5 gal buckets. Only 1 type came up... life latch. I'm not sure it is the 3 piece style you have. I am sure that price is awful high. They don't even know it's for a boat!

Do you have another brand name or something?
Hope hope hope.

thanks,
Erik

See if this helps, the lids are only about $4.00.....

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/gamma-seal-lids.html

and here are the buckets.....

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/5-gallo ... ckets.html

They are a good product,

Sum

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[bartmac]

Cost is always a consideration,but in our case was mitigated by the fact it was going to be dual purpose ie also do duty in our motorhome.The compost question means that yes the last addition needs to compost out before its safe,but that can be done in a seperate bucket with a lid or bury the whole lot rendering it safe.Disposal in a normal septic or sewage system whilst away can be done.