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Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:34 pm
by bartmac
The previous owner of my boat was the same....boat only held at front by the winch!!!!We've now got a seperate tie down at the front and a wide strap at the rear...not particularly tight as the hull is held by the cradle the trailer creates.I've looked at a different way as the rear strap goes right across the cockpit which impedes movement whilst on the trailer.....but haven't come up with anything....don't want to use the stanchions

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:29 pm
by Québec 1
The Mutt wrote:I use a tie-down so that if anything unfortunate happens the insurance company can't use that point to cancel any payout, I'm sure there is fine print for the policy stored in basement labeled "quaratined" with the door bricked over, guarded by a Cerberus somewhere in this or another Galaxy.

Glenn
My boat is attached as per manufacturers instructions...don't see why insurance company would void my insurance1
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Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:23 pm
by The Mutt
Québec 1 wrote:My boat is attached as per manufacturers instructions...don't see why insurance company would void my insurance1
Q1
Different parts of the world ... different ways of having to deal with things I suppose!

Glenn

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:48 pm
by seahouse
So exactly what are the manufacutrer's instructions? I can't see them not recommending stern tie-downs. :cry:

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:55 am
by Catigale
The 2002 :macx: manual says to secure the front with the winch and to run a line over the rear, under the lifelines.

I would worry more about hull damage on a unsecured boat than it coming loose. The bunks and hull arent designed to take shock loads of a bouncing boat.

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:23 am
by esc
IIRC, the manual for my '96 X also said the line going across the boat should be at the front of the cockpit.

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:55 pm
by Québec 1
Seems to me that point 8 on page 20 could help a good lawyer invalidate your warranty (and subsequently your insurance)if you strap it down. :D I don't mean to be a party pooper but a lot of Mac owners don't strap their boat to the trailer and I have not heard of a greater accident rate related to this. :!: :!:
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p.s. There must be a reason the mfg. and all dealers don't strap the boat on to the trailer :|

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:17 pm
by Highlander
Bertrand Ignorance of the Law is no excuse :o
You forgot to read the last pargraph after #8 it gets the manufacturer off the HOOK , Something about The LAW rules over ALL . And the law does rule it says the load must be secured & not by its own self weight !!!! :arrow: :idea: :o :o

Flaunt with the law if you will but do not encourge others to do the same !! :|

Now if your gonna be in the big city of TO on the 15th Jan 2011 for the Boat Show we can discuss this further over a beer or two on your behalf of coarse :P

J :wink:

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:21 pm
by Highlander
Yep
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p.s. There must be a reason the mfg. and all dealers don't strap the boat on to the trailer

The onus is on the person hauling it not who owns it !1

J :o

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:36 pm
by dennisneal
The State of California, Dept. of Boating and Waterways publishes guidelines for boaters. I don't know if the guidelines are enforceable regulations, or, merely guidelines. In any case, I quote:

"Secure the vessel to the trailer with several tie-down straps and/or safety lines to prevent the vessel from shifting. Use extra tie-down straps in case one fails. Never trust the bow winch alone to hold your vessel onto the trailer."

Ref: The California Course Boater Education

http://www.boat-ed.com/ca/course/p2-4_trailering.htm

I hope this helps.

Dennis

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:48 pm
by Fxwg80hd
Q1 - interesting that you quote from the owners manual on a reason not to strap down the back of the Mac 26m. I found the owners manual instructs you to secure the boat to the rear of the trailer. Looking at the owners manual on the factory website:

http://www.macgregor26.com/instruction_ ... CTIONS.pdf

In the section called "Preparing for trailering" sub section "Securing the boat to the trailer", the last paragraph of that section states "As an extra security measure, tie a line to one of the trailer side rails near the end of the trailer. Pass the line across the boat (under the lifelines). Pull it tight, and tie it to the other trailer rail."

if the company went to the trouble of telling the owners to secure the boat to the rear of the trailer, there might be something to this.

Chris

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:22 am
by parrothead
Here's Blue Heaven with the 3-point tie-down system that I use.
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The short black bow tie-down is hard to see, but is essentially vertical. The orange straps from the rear cleats to the trailer are a pair of 8' ATV ratchet tie-downs. http://www.easternmarine.com/Motorcycle ... ack-05723/ These straps are the perfect length and include loops [described as "Soft Ties"] that easily wrap around the trailer frame. They don't cause any discoloration of the gel coat, nor wear on the rub strip. Since I have to tow ~ 40 miles to the marina in the spring over some uneven pavement, after applying $200/gallon bottom paint, I don't want any movement of the boat in relationship to the trailer bunks that will wear said paint off. The short ties are much less prone to stretching than a single over-the-boat strap, and better able to be "snugged" with their ratchets than would be true for a pair of dock lines.

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:41 am
by kmclemore
This is what I use:

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I run it from the trailer rail, over the boat (at the front of the cockpit) and back down to the other rail, with the ratchet on the off-side, using the 1/2 twist method on each span. Works great, and has never damaged the boat.

I've seen the damage resulting from boats that have come off the trailer during an evasive maneuver or accident... it's not pretty.

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:00 pm
by The Mutt
kmclemore wrote:This is what I use:

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I run it from the trailer rail, over the boat (at the front of the cockpit) and back down to the other rail, with the ratchet on the off-side, using the 1/2 twist method on each span. Works great, and has never damaged the boat.

I've seen the damage resulting from boats that have come off the trailer during an evasive maneuver or accident... it's not pretty.
I'm using the same strap as you ... even the same colour, the only diference is that mine has "US Customs" on it.

Glenn

Re: Trailer tie down

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:35 pm
by kmclemore
The Mutt wrote:I'm using the same strap as you ... even the same colour, the only diference is that mine has "US Customs" on it.

Glenn
My tax dollars at work? :x