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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:13 pm
by kmclemore
jackie m wrote:Sure would like to get my hands on that postcard!
Jackie
You can... click
here to buy the poster.
Re: She's gone to a better place...
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:02 pm
by mike
Moe,
It's nice to hear that your well-cared-for boat will be residing in my neck of the woods!
--Mike
PortaBote
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:40 pm
by Jack O'Brien
That dinghy is a 10 or 12-foot PortaBote. They are great. Row, motor and tow very well.

Re: PortaBote
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:19 pm
by jackie m
Jack O'Brien wrote:That dinghy is a 10 or 12-foot PortaBote. They are great. Row, motor and tow very well.

Was more impressive in use than I imagined when we ordered it at a boat show... except that the oar lock mounts are a bit squishy. We are already looking into a small trolling motor.
As for towing, we had some strong winds and choppy waves motoring back with the PortaBote in tow and there was very little water in it. It's a ten footer.
MeMine... can't go wrong with anything Scottish

Like the Macgregor, Westies are pure fun.
Jackie
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:39 pm
by Moe
Thanks! I'll bookmark that and look into it.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:59 pm
by Catigale
18 gallons fuel capacity(600 mile range, calm water);
Is it feasible to get 30 mpg out of a marine diesel application on a 28 foot boat??
Sound high to me.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:11 pm
by Frank C
Slamjammer wrote: Something else I found odd, is the LOA of 28', the LWL of 22', but it's called a 23' cutter. Oh well.

It's built by Nor' Sea. They're probably better at building boats than webpages.
Notice the foresail is tacked to a sprit, and the backstay (and ridder?) have a stern frame. This means the length on-deck is prolly close to 23', while length overall is close to 28'. Haven't found an interior plan, but it's gotta be a more compact interior than the X.
Notice also that it has a triangular centerboard ... likely filling the slot even when board is extended.
Montgomery 28 Cutter

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:22 pm
by Frank C
The Montgomery website specifies 18 gallons of diesel for a range of 600 miles ... sorry, but it's pretty hard believe 100+ hours of motoring on only 18 gallons. They MUST be referring to motorsailing, eh?
(on edit: 18 gals x 3.3 hrs. per gal = 60 hours runtime on one tank, full power.
Assuming 60 hours @ full power, they forecast 100 hours @ 60% power.
.... Hmmmm ??? )
This nifty 10HP Yanmar Diesel arrived. She's a beautiful little engine and we set her in place after the interior grid pan goes in. We spend lots of time on locating places for water and fuel tanks, filters, wiring, galley amenities, etc. This engine will run at full power (you usually never run at full RPM but usually 60% of full power when motoring, but fuel flow is measured at full power) for 3 hours and 20 minutes on one gallon of fuel.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:51 pm
by Frank C
This boat uses a very interesting mast raising system for its 27' spar. It's something like the Telstar 28, except that the Telstar uses a permanent double-pivoting A-frame.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:12 pm
by Dimitri-2000X-Tampa
It might be off a bit, but not as much as you guys might think. On my 27 foot O'day with Universal 10HP diesel, I could probably get a good 6.5 mph at 60-80% power at a fuel burn rate of at least 4 hours per gallon. This would translate to at least 470 miles on 18 gallons of diesel and I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't over 500...I could cruise for days on my 9 gallon tank. That was one of the big changes I had to adapt to when I got the Mac...even the relatively fuel efficient 4 stroke 50 HP outboard I have has fuel economy that is about 10 times worse than my former keelboat...but it was a price I was willing to pay.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:45 pm
by Catigale
THanks Dimitri - that is impressive, never realised my 50 sucked as much fuel relatively speaking...
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:06 am
by delevi
Moe, it sounds like you need to move to California. That way, you will never have snow piling up on you boat in the winter and you can use it year round.
Bob sure is lucky to buy this boat from you. Not to sound mushy, but I learned a lot from you and really appreciate all the contributions you made. Your latest instruction about cutting loose the bolt rope on the mainsail, diagram & all, awesome! Got the sail up five inches, and probably solved the luffing problem.
Any time you're in the San Francisco area, the admiral & I would be delighted to take you and your admiral out for a sail on the bay, with a BBQ dinner & all. That is, if you're not too embarrassed to be seen on an

You're a great guy. Best to you and your family
Merry Christmas!
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:32 am
by Moe
Thanks Leon. If we're ever out that way, I'll look you up. I'm ready to go back home to the Panhandle.