Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:13 am
Chip,
You're right about the unintended interaction between the mainsheet and the proposed contraption. Tightening the main sheet will pull the boom bail rearward and downward, thereby pulling B2 away from B1 and tightening the main halyard. Of course, it will also tend to pull the boom downward... So, the end result might be very little... I guess I'll find out how much of a difference this actually makes...
As you are a much more experienced sailor, I'll take your word for the need to adjust the main halyard and boom vang independently. In my VERY limited experience, I've just hoisted the main, cleated it off, yanked the boom vang tight, and then gone back to the cockpit - never to touch either again until it was time to drop the main...
But, as far as the boom being pulled to one side, I think you're wrong. B1 will attach to a tab extending rearward and upward at about 45 degrees from the mast base, that rotates with the mast and is where the boom vang normally attaches. With B2 attached to the boom bail, the only force the boom sees mimics that of the boom vang.
I also fail to see where the lines are crossing, provided you don't try to get purchase/advantage between B1 and B2. If you do try to get purchase/advantage, then, yes, the line will almost certainly rub itself and/or one of the blocks...
Also, I did mention that I thought the line would want to run alongside the gooseneck, but that could be prevented (at least temporarily for testing) by running the line forward of the main halyard cleat, using that main cleat as a temporary turning block. In that case, of course, there will be some friction between the line and the cleat, but with such a shallow angle it shouldn't be too bad. Besides, if the setup works out, I could just mount a cheek block near the cleat, on the mast, and run the line through that...
Obviously, this is not an optimum solution. However, I'm not a race sailor. In fact, I barely consider myself a sailor. It just occured to me that this might be a decent way for me to get the main halyard back to the cockpit, in a clean and reversible manner. I realize that I am certainly sacrificing the boom vang in doing so, since I am changing the boom attachment point, losing the 4:1 advantage, and limiting the boom vang's tension to that of the main halyard. But, with the mainsheet setup on the M, this board is replete with comments about the boom vang being unnecessary on the M anyway.
So, I guess I'll just see if it works out...
You're right about the unintended interaction between the mainsheet and the proposed contraption. Tightening the main sheet will pull the boom bail rearward and downward, thereby pulling B2 away from B1 and tightening the main halyard. Of course, it will also tend to pull the boom downward... So, the end result might be very little... I guess I'll find out how much of a difference this actually makes...
As you are a much more experienced sailor, I'll take your word for the need to adjust the main halyard and boom vang independently. In my VERY limited experience, I've just hoisted the main, cleated it off, yanked the boom vang tight, and then gone back to the cockpit - never to touch either again until it was time to drop the main...
But, as far as the boom being pulled to one side, I think you're wrong. B1 will attach to a tab extending rearward and upward at about 45 degrees from the mast base, that rotates with the mast and is where the boom vang normally attaches. With B2 attached to the boom bail, the only force the boom sees mimics that of the boom vang.
I also fail to see where the lines are crossing, provided you don't try to get purchase/advantage between B1 and B2. If you do try to get purchase/advantage, then, yes, the line will almost certainly rub itself and/or one of the blocks...
Also, I did mention that I thought the line would want to run alongside the gooseneck, but that could be prevented (at least temporarily for testing) by running the line forward of the main halyard cleat, using that main cleat as a temporary turning block. In that case, of course, there will be some friction between the line and the cleat, but with such a shallow angle it shouldn't be too bad. Besides, if the setup works out, I could just mount a cheek block near the cleat, on the mast, and run the line through that...
Obviously, this is not an optimum solution. However, I'm not a race sailor. In fact, I barely consider myself a sailor. It just occured to me that this might be a decent way for me to get the main halyard back to the cockpit, in a clean and reversible manner. I realize that I am certainly sacrificing the boom vang in doing so, since I am changing the boom attachment point, losing the 4:1 advantage, and limiting the boom vang's tension to that of the main halyard. But, with the mainsheet setup on the M, this board is replete with comments about the boom vang being unnecessary on the M anyway.
So, I guess I'll just see if it works out...