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Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 am
by Tomfoolery
You obviously have to slide the furler drum up to get to the turnbuckle. The forestay won’t stretch very much at all, due to its geometry and its size, especially the heavier forestay. So adjust the mast rake with the forestay, then tension the side stays to the desired tension, including mast bend.
Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:48 am
by Catigale
3 more strands means only two more sailing trips,right?
Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:18 am
by Starscream
I don't like the idea of the mast dropping on me and my family. So I added a backup forestay. It was one of the easiest mods, and cost about $100 total. Best cost/peace-of-mind ratio of any mod that I have done.
The parts are, in order: trailering bolt, snap-shackle, turnbuckle, rope forestay, snap shackle, mast hound.
Bonus: when raising the mast, the turnbuckle can be lengthened so it's super-easy to snap onto the trailering bolt. Then the turnbuckle can be tightened to allow the jib forestay/furler to be easily pinned, and to be under good tension when the turnbuckle is loosened.

Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:37 am
by NiceAft
I don’t think that mod is wise on an

(Not that Starscream is suggesting it.) . The M mast is significantly heavier than on an

. Not just heavier, but two feet taller and larger bow to stern. All of the chain plates on the

were made stronger, along with the bow plates and all mast hardware.
On an

it obviously works, I just don’t think on an

it is advisable without somehow strengthening the bow end. Simply attaching it to the

bowpit, I don’t think is advisable.
Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:06 pm
by kurz
hmmm... well... I dont know about the additional forestay...
Some years ago I made the same with a line.
Went out from the harbour in the mediterranean... Wantet to take the genoa in. Heavy winds. As a matter of fact (maybe it was my own stupidity?!) the genoa get mixed with/furled with the additional forestay. I could not solve it anymore out.
So I had to go back into the harbour...
End of the story?
No... The cleat that hold the centerboard didnt hold good and it fell down. But there was maybe max 140cm... entering the harbour. The

stoped... Then the wind turned the

and the centerboard broke
Ok, no really catastroph. But I looked stupid enough. Could get a new one by the way and could continou the trip some days later.
But still I see the problem by solving one (having panic of forestay brake) making new troubles (sail hassle with the additional forestay).
So at the moment I try to stay confident with the heavier new forestay. And on top: It is eaier to enter the

from the bow without this additional forestay...
Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:59 pm
by NiceAft
Kurz,
That was some story. If it wasn’t for bad luck, you didn’t have any luck at all.
Since Switzerland is land locked, where in the Mediterranean did you trailer your

to?
Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:22 am
by kurz
this was Piombino/Italy. Then crossing to Corsica, then back to Giglio (Costa Concordia...)
Back home over the alps on trailer

Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:33 am
by Jimmyt
I tested the dagger board emergency brake once. Unfortunately, I can't claim anything slipped, other than my memory to pull it up before going through the inlet at less than high tide... Brought the boat to a complete stop, quickly. Sandy bottom and minimal chop saved me from breaking it.
Glad you were able to quickly source a new one.
Sounds like my luck. Try to fix a non-issue and turn it into a catastrophe. Welcome to the club!

Re: Forestay on the las 3 strands!
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:36 am
by NiceAft
kurz wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:22 am
this was Piombino/Italy. Then crossing to Corsica, then back to Giglio (Costa Concordia...)
Back home over the alps on trailer
I liked Corsica; a nice place. Did you get to see Napoleon’s family shop?
Sailing around that area is an envious trip.