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Re: Full battens?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:32 pm
by Sumner
Neo wrote:Hi Summer,

Great photos....
Is that a loose foot?
Whats inside your boom track that I'm assuming your top-lift is attached to?
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The Main is loose-footed. The topping lift is attached to an eye-pad at the back of the boom. The sail is reefed in the picture so you can't see the slug for the main,

Sumner

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1300 miles to the Bahamas and back -- 2015

The MacGregor 26-S

The Endeavour 37

Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida

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Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:43 pm
by Phil M
One of the cons to a full Batten Main is that the main needs to roll up and it's quite is significantly larger main in storage than partial battens which can be folded into a smaller footprint for traveling. I haven't quite figured out how to travel with my full battened main yet. :?
The loose foot is easier to set up than a bolt rope along the boom. :)
IT's not a big deal to sail 1/4 of a nm faster under certain conditions for me.

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:56 pm
by yukonbob
Phil M wrote:One of the cons to a full Batten Main is that the main needs to roll up and it's quite is significantly larger main in storage than partial battens which can be folded into a smaller footprint for traveling. I haven't quite figured out how to travel with my full battened main yet. :?
The loose foot is easier to set up than a bolt rope along the boom. :)
IT's not a big deal to sail 1/4 of a nm faster under certain conditions for me.
Take the battens out. :wink:

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:37 pm
by kadet
Phil M wrote:One of the cons to a full Batten Main is that the main needs to roll up and it's quite is significantly larger main in storage than partial battens which can be folded into a smaller footprint for traveling. I haven't quite figured out how to travel with my full battened main yet. :?
The loose foot is easier to set up than a bolt rope along the boom. :)
IT's not a big deal to sail 1/4 of a nm faster under certain conditions for me.
I leave mine sail tied to the boom stored inside the boat, makes setup quicker too 8) If you need to put it in a sail bag as Yukonbob said take the battens out.

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:24 pm
by Phil M
kadet wrote: I leave mine sail tied to the boom stored inside the boat, makes setup quicker too 8) If you need to put it in a sail bag as Yukonbob said take the battens out.
So take the battens out and put them back in every sailing? :o

I might try keeping the main on the boom if I can figure out how to roll it up somehow.

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:41 am
by Sumner
Phil M wrote:....I might try keeping the main on the boom if I can figure out how to roll it up somehow.
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Consider taking the time to make a sail-pack. I keep the main in it at all times and remove it and the boom and tie them to the side stanchions on the road. They could go below but I use that area to sleep in when ever possible traveling. At home I put the boom/sail-pack/sail inside up high in my garage space.

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Info on how the sail-pack for the Mac was made here ...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... vas-9.html

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... and the one for the Endeavour here...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... index.html

The sail-pack is one of the best additions on the boat. It makes dropping and storing the sail during the day and at the end of the day simple and easy and also holds the sail when it is dropped while reefed. Your sail will live longer also with less sun exposure. It and the lazy-jacks make life much easier. The 1/2 the lazy jack lines store in the sail pack when the boom is off the mast and the other have of them stay attached to the mast so setting them up is fast. One half snaps onto the other half.....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... ng-21.html

Sumner

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1300 miles to the Bahamas and back -- 2015

The MacGregor 26-S

The Endeavour 37

Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida

Mac-Venture Links

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:03 am
by kadet
I might try keeping the main on the boom if I can figure out how to roll it up somehow
Don't roll it, flake it. 8)

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:34 am
by Highlander
As in Snow Flake !! :D :D :D :P

J 8)

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:01 pm
by Neo
kadet wrote:Don't roll it, flake it. 8)
Why Kadet?

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:16 pm
by kadet
Neo wrote:
kadet wrote:Don't roll it, flake it. 8)
Why Kadet?
Because it is quicker and easier to attach and raise the main. Also once the sail gets a memory of being flaked it is easier to lower into your lazy jacks :P

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:00 pm
by Phil M
Sumner wrote:
Consider taking the time to make a sail-pack. I keep the main in it at all times and remove it and the boom and tie them to the side stanchions on the road. They could go below but I use that area to sleep in when ever possible traveling.
That is certainly a remarkable invention. :o

If I paid you $50 an hour I would end up having to Forfeit my entire boat. :?

I did notice that you're flaking is rather tight too. And I do like the idea of keeping the main attached to the boom and storing it topside for the ride home.

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:51 pm
by yukonbob
Boom with the main sail on also fit in the rear berth or port side settee ext bring up into the V berth. That way it's not getting raid grime on the drive.

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:09 pm
by Neo
kadet wrote:once the sail gets a memory of being flaked it is easier to lower into your lazy jacks :P
Interesting 8) ..... Thanks for that :)

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:34 am
by Sumner
yukonbob wrote:Boom with the main sail on also fit in the rear berth or port side settee ext bring up into the V berth. That way it's not getting road grime on the drive.
I worried about the road grime...

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.... and on the first trip to Florida covered the boom/sail with a tarp and did the same to the roller furler on the mast. On the way home I didn't take the time to do that and after the 2200 mile drive I couldn't see any build-up of dirt on anything so quit covering them and have put on another 5500 miles since then towing and still haven't had a problem. Probably depends on where you are towing if it will become an issue. I need the space in the boat while traveling, so for me, putting the boom below would be a real inconvenience.

I use to pull the roller furler off the mast at home and store it up on the wall in the shop but ....

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... now leave it on the boat outside. I made the cover above to protect it from the sun and it now also gives it protection while on trips. It uses 'common sense' fasteners to hold it on and goes off an on quickly. It also captures most of the standing rigging inside of it so I don't have to bungee it all down any more, which is a big time saver.

Sumner

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1300 miles to the Bahamas and back -- 2015

The MacGregor 26-S

The Endeavour 37

Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida

Mac-Venture Links

Re: Full battens?

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:41 am
by Phil M
How long does it take to set up and take down lazy Jacks? My setup and take down procedure already seems to be long enough. I have shied away from lazy Jacks for that reason.