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Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:20 am
by NiceAft
reastmure wrote:I also have this issue with the loose but not falling off boom attachment. It has been like that for a while and I have been thinking of re riveting. I wasn't sure if there was actually supposed to be some play in it. Sounds like not so I'll put it on the priority list.
I honestly don't know if it is normal for some play. The boat is, eleven years old. I was waiting to see if anyone posted, that a little play is acceptable. I intend to purchase a riveting tool, but I am not certain if I will, right now, actually engage in the repair. I am quite undecided.
Ray
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:42 pm
by Highlander
NiceAft wrote:reastmure wrote:I also have this issue with the loose but not falling off boom attachment. It has been like that for a while and I have been thinking of re riveting. I wasn't sure if there was actually supposed to be some play in it. Sounds like not so I'll put it on the priority list.
I honestly don't know if it is normal for some play. The boat is, eleven years old. I was waiting to see if anyone posted, that a little play is acceptable. I intend to purchase a riveting tool, but I am not certain if I will, right now, actually engage in the repair. I am quite undecided.
Ray
No Ray
Not normal the goose neck brkt should be tight on the mast
Trust Me
J

Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:46 pm
by NiceAft
Well, that answers that
Ray
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:33 pm
by tewharaunz
Ray,
I've been using the name because it's always available. Didn't think about the WTF factor.
Te Wharau (pronounced Teh Whar-ah-o) is the original Maori name for Charteris Bay, where we live (and sail) in New Zealand.
Btw, stainless rivets are really expensive in NZ (no West Marine) but I've bought a selection small packs from this aliexpress shop and they've been OK.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stainle ... 66936.html
Cheers, David
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:05 pm
by NiceAft
tewharaunz wrote:Ray,
I've been using the name because it's always available. Didn't think about the WTF factor.
Te Wharau (pronounced Teh Whar-ah-o) is the original Maori name for Charteris Bay, where we live (and sail) in New Zealand.
Btw, stainless rivets are really expensive in NZ (no West Marine) but I've bought a selection small packs from this aliexpress shop and they've been OK.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stainle ... 66936.html
Cheers, David
David,
What do you use to fasten the SS rivets?
Ray
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:13 pm
by tewharaunz
Ray,
For the small ones, I can use a hand pop riveter, but for the larger ones I bought this one a couple years ago:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/18-3-2mm ... 69148.html
It's probably similar to the cheapest unit at Harbour Freight, but Harbour Freight doesn't ship to NZ....
Plenty of access for the gooseneck but it's hard to use in tight places.
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:37 am
by Hardcrab
My 2005 M had the gooseneck plate become loose also, resulting with the holes drilled in the mast wallowed out/corroded bigger more than I cared for. After all, any new pop rivet will only expand but so much, and maybe the mast holes were to big for best long term holding results, was my theory.
So, I bent an approx. 3" X 6", .093" piece of 6063 aluminum to mimic the mast profile at the gooseneck. I mounted the gooseneck to this repair piece with countersunk SS machine screws from the inside, with SS locking nuts on the outside.
Locating this assembly on the mast keeping the gooseneck aligned with the original holes now gives me two "wings" on either side of the mast to drill brand new holes through my repair piece and mast to take new SS pop rivets. I was able to get 4 nicely spaced rivets per "wing", doubling the factory number.
My one-time-for-the-rest-of-my-life gooseneck repair may be overkill to some.
But, it won't come loose again, I'll wager.
The mast will crack due to the added holes first.
Of course, the good old dissimilar metals monster can be counted on to crank up the corrosion machine before the sun sets.
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:02 am
by NiceAft
Thanks for the post Hardcrab.
I think John's idea of placing tape between the two metals may take care of the dissimilar metal challenge.
Ray
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:20 pm
by vizwhiz
So I asked, and people responded...love this site!
Bought stainless rivets on ebay for $5, 3/16" dia, all stainless.
Used my Stanley hand tool that i use for aluminum rivets. Worked fine. Was hard to pull them down, and I had to do it in stages, but it worked great. I used two hands and death-grip to get them tight, expecting to have to cut the nail off. But just when I thought I had pulled all I could, "pop"! The first rivet popped. Spurred on, i continued like a barbarian double-gripping the poor little yellow tool, just daring it to break, and popped the other three successfully!
(Couldn't use my hands for a while...but hey, it was worth it!)
So it can be done with a regular tool with all stainles rivets. Not easy, but possible. It's only four rivets, after all. I do have pretty strong hands...your results may vary. (You could always pay a college football player $20 or a 12-pack to do it for you!)
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:18 am
by Todd
I had the same issue. Lowes didn't have the rivets in SS but the gentleman was kind enough to to tell me that True Value would have what I needed. They did. Still my favorite hardware store.
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:51 am
by NiceAft
Thank you all for the replies.
This project will now be done in the spring.
Ray
Re: Has anyone had this happen?
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:53 am
by kmclemore
NiceAft wrote:Thank you all for the replies.
This project will now be done in the spring.
Ray
Let me know if you need a hand, Ray.